Anniversary Episode: Celebrating 5 Years of The New Truth!

Kate Harlow: 00:00:00

And we went and did photos in there. And I just remember, like, how much fun that day was, and how fun, like, especially once we were in the forest. And then I just remember that moment where they took pictures of us, where our backs are to the camera, and we're looking out to the ocean, and we're arm in arm, and we're just sobbing. And we just, like, sobbed, and had, like, the most heart, expansive, beautiful day, and it was so symbolic of, really the birth of the new truth, because that week in Vancouver was the birth of the new truth. Yes, yeah, the other one was inception, but that was the birth. Hi, you're listening to Kate and Catherine, and we're going to show you how to find your Prince Charming so that you can finally live happily ever after, forever and

Catherine Danieli: 00:00:49

ever No, we are definitely not going to do that. We are sick of that story, and it's a lie. It is a lie. You're listening to the new truth a modern Woman's Guide to extraordinary love.

Kate Harlow: 00:01:05

We are going to show you how the fairy tale love story stops you from experiencing the love you truly desire. Listen

Catherine Danieli: 00:01:13

to hear how to break free from sacrifice and struggle in relationship, and

Kate Harlow: 00:01:18

learn the new truth about love in a way that you've never heard it before.

Catherine Danieli: 00:01:23

We're so happy you're here. Keep listening.

Kate Harlow: 00:01:31

Happy anniversary. Catherine,

Catherine Danieli: 00:01:33

happy anniversary. Kate.

Kate Harlow: 00:01:39

It is so crazy almost fell off my chair when I thought it was a mistake. I went back to look at the very first new truth episode, because we were schuling the end of January for a five year anniversary episode, and January 28 2020 was our very first episode, and this episode comes out on january 28 2025, and it's kind of our, almost our six year anniversary, because really the idea was born, I guess, like five and a half. It was born

Catherine Danieli: 00:02:12

summer 2019 Yeah, yeah.

Kate Harlow: 00:02:15

So buckle up, sisters. For those of you, you know we have so many new truth podcast community members will call you who have been on this journey with us from the very beginning. If you have like, can you come post in the new truth movement Facebook group, maybe, and I would love to see like some shares of this episode today and what, what the podcast has done for you in your life. How has it changed your life? Share the anniversary episode on your social media and and tag us in it, so we know the impact that the new truth podcast has had on your life. And so we can, of course, spread the word to as many women on planet Earth to wake up to the truth of their own souls. But holy crap, five years,

Catherine Danieli: 00:03:10

a lifetime, a lifetime has happened.

Kate Harlow: 00:03:14

And we were talking about me starting this episode with where, where the new truth was born, because the spark was planted with me. But just like I always talk about, with divine purpose connected to your work in the world, it's led when you're following your heart, life leads us and well, especially for me as a projector, I'm invited. But the first, actually, okay, I'll give Jeff credit first, because Jeff always you know, you know that thing with boyfriends and husbands where they tell you what to do, and you don't hear it, don't hear it, don't hear it. And then someone else tells you you're like, great idea. And then you go tell them all excited, and they're like, I've been telling you that forever. So the podcast was one of those things when I got so excited and told them I wanted to do a podcast after many seeds that were planted by different people. He was upset that he didn't get credit. So first Jeff Parr gets credit, my partner of seven years who was my partner at the time at the beginning of this podcast, and is like family to me. But I had a client that used to love my Voxer messages so much, and she listened to them on the way to work. She was the first seed planter, and this would would have been around March 2019, and she was like, Kate Harlow, you need a podcast. These Voxer messages are not long enough. And I just listened to them over and over again. And I want a podcast. You need a podcast. And I was like, What's a podcast? Like? I was just kept being like, okay, okay. And I, I didn't really listen. And then April 2020, 2019 I keep thinking, 2020 april 2019 I was in Toronto back in the day free me being online. I used to do live talks three. It would be like the modern Woman's Guide to extraordinary love was my tagline. We. Which is our tagline for the podcast, and I would travel in different places in North America. So this particular event was in Toronto, at my friend's spa. Shout out to Laurinda. I was doing it at the W spa in Toronto, and I had 40 women, and I would do these beautiful talks, and I served wine at the end so that everyone could have a glass of wine and connect and stay longer, and I'd have a few snacks. And so I had these five women's come to me at the back of the room, and they were like, Kate Harlow, this needs to be a podcast. And of course, my talks were about breaking free from the fairy tale, breaking free from fantasy love. And I was talking about it on Facebook. I don't even think Instagram existed, or I guess it existed what it is today at all. No, I don't got on there, but I was sharing it on Facebook as were you sharing a similar message on Facebook? These five women talk to me for like, an hour about podcasts and the importance of podcasts, and how much they were growing, and how this message they needed to hear over and over and over again. And so I went home, and it really landed that time. And I went and told my partner, Jeff. I was like, Babe, I think I need to do a podcast. And he's like, I've been saying that forever. And then once he got over himself, he said, Okay, great, let's take action like, what? When are you going to start? And I said, Well, the problem is I don't want to do it by myself. I'm clear. I do not want to sit in front of a computer and just talk to myself. And he was like, Okay, well, then you need a partner. Who would it be? And I was like, who I don't know. And he's like, if you had to choose one person, who would it be? And I love that. He just asked me that question so directly. And I was like, Catherine Daniele, and we didn't really even know each other.

Unknown: 00:06:43

Yeah, so story,

Kate Harlow: 00:06:47

it's crazy, so we'll go back in time and tell our story again. But we barely knew each other. But I reached out to Catherine Daniele and said, Hey, I have an idea. Can we get on a call? And it was June 2019, and we got on a call, and I said, Do you want to do a podcast with me? And you started crying, and you were like, yes, yes. Like, a fantasy proposal, like, No, you didn't have to think about it. Was no thinking about it, yeah, it was the best. Okay, your turn. And then

Catherine Danieli: 00:07:17

I booked a trip to Vancouver. Never been there before. We had literally never spent

Kate Harlow: 00:07:24

time together. We met at a rooftop party, for those of you that don't

Catherine Danieli: 00:07:28

know, so that will tell that story. I think that that story is important because, again, this like, like it is making me cry, not only the overwhelm of what a gift this has been, but the way so many people are living with their hearts closed and heads down and like and in convincing themselves they know what's best for themselves, or they know where their life is supposed to go, or they know what life is like supposed to happen, like controlling everything is the fastest way to shrink yourself and shrink your life. And, like, actually totally miss your life

Kate Harlow: 00:08:06

and miss all the magic, like, Miss all this invitation, just like with sending you yes every

Catherine Danieli: 00:08:10

everything is like, I believe we are born with a purpose, like we were born seated for a mystery. And I, I mean, in 2012 I met a guy at the gym. I had never done yoga before in my life. I met a guy at the gym. We start dating. He finds a yoga studio in Boston that I fall in love with. He signs up for yoga teacher training, and I meet Joanna. Joanna says, after we meet, oh my god, you need to know my friend, Laura swan. Laura Swan's doing women's circles and doing all these things that are amazing. I go to California and meet Laura Swan, and then I start women's circles, and I start connecting with San Diego. And my ex, Jamie, who I'm, who I'm referring to, was from San Diego. So I start going to San Diego a whole lot, in 2013 Kate does not live in San Diego. Kate lives in Vancouver, but we met at a party in 2000 I

Kate Harlow: 00:09:08

fell in love with San Diego and Encinitas. I went to a Don Miguel Ruiz workshop there, and then I made all these friends. And then I kept going back, and Encinitas kept pulling me in and pulling me in, and I'd stay at my friend Tyler's house, yeah,

Catherine Danieli: 00:09:21

which is where Jamie lived with Tyler. So Kay and I meet and and, of course, we hit it off as friends, because we were vibrating at the same frequency around love and coaching, and started following each other on Facebook.

Kate Harlow: 00:09:37

No, no, no, no, we have to talk about our actual meeting, because we did not meet at the house. I said no, but we No, we have to talk about this associate. This detail, to me, is so specific. And you, I feel like you kind of like brush over this one detail, but I actually have just Yeah, because

Catherine Danieli: 00:09:54

my obsession was with Jamie at the time, and I was only concerned with being with Jamie, so I have no connection. Into

Kate Harlow: 00:10:00

the party. You weren't present at the party. Okay, so Catherine and I only when I was talking to you, okay, downtown San Diego. It's a it was called Secret table. It was this, these pop up dinners. I don't know if they're still happening. It was cool, like, really big chefs that do these pop up dinners. And you buy a ticket in advance. You have no idea where it is. You find out the day of you go to the venue. It was a rooftop patio at a beautiful building with a pool, a gorgeous venue and amazing food. And it was this rooftop dinner. And I was there with my couple of friends from Encinitas, and they were meeting a couple of their friends there. I didn't know anyone else. So we get there, the fucking two, the guy, Casey, okay, I don't know what season of The Bachelor he was on, but for those of you who are diehard bachelor fans, oh, this garden, I want guard and protect your heart. He got a tattoo for this girl, and he was like, got left on a mountain. That's all I remember. I used to be in love with the bachelor. Back in the day, this guy, Casey from the bachelor, like the fantasy of all fantasy shows, was was at this party. I'm pretty sure there were a couple people from the bachelor at this party. So how crazy is that Catherine and I met at a party downtown San Diego where there were guys from the freaking bachelor at the same party. What? So then,

Catherine Danieli: 00:11:17

what's important, though, I know you love that so much. What is true, though, is I only was obsessed with Jamie. I didn't talk to anyone else except you at the party, my friend Kelly came with me too. She was there. Kelly was there. That's when you met Kelly too. But after following one each other on Facebook and seeing the similar messaging right that we want to just keep reminding you no one else was saying. Every other dating and relationship coach was saying, find the one. Find your soulmate, you know, discover the other person as the love of your life, like no one was

Kate Harlow: 00:11:54

talking XYZ to get the guy. Everyone. No one

Catherine Danieli: 00:11:57

was talking about this. Yes, and I ran a program. Because this is actually right before you asked me to do the podcast. This is what happened. We talked. We had an experience talking together. So I wonder if that's also what Blake planted. The seed I was I ran a program called committed to love. It was a six month program for six women, and I would have a different speaker come every month, and so early that year. So before the summer, I had asked Kate, and you know what I was thinking, actually, we should I could find that recording, and it could be an episode I don't even remember interviewing you, because what I remember is saying to you, like, tell us about your love story. And literally, unlike any other person, I had online, and and you were in a beautiful relationship, and I wanted you to talk about it, but you said, I'm gonna tell a different kind of love story. I'm gonna tell the story of falling in love with myself. And that was the theme of that month in committed to love. So that happened, we had had that call, so that's actually when I fell in love with you. I think, like being being in an interview with you, with microphones and just you and I on Zoom, talking and riffing and ranting, because it was soon after that that you reached out to me again and said, want to do a podcast. Yeah. And then I go to Vancouver, San Diego, then I go to Vancouver in 2019

Kate Harlow: 00:13:21

now, before we get to that. So down to the airport, she comes off the plane. I think I've told this before, but you know, there's newbies. She comes off the plane and and hang

Catherine Danieli: 00:13:30

out with someone I'd never hung out with before. I never see I only

Kate Harlow: 00:13:33

saw her at a party. We were all wearing high heels. It was like 10 minutes. So she I only know her on social media. Everyone knows this feeling like, you know you meet someone on Zoom, and then you meet them in person. You're like, what the hell the hell? So Catherine has very big energy. She's a manifesting generator. She's from the East Coast. She's from New York. She's got like, intense, big energy, right? So I imagined, I mean, I didn't really think about it, but like, in my mind, you were like, five foot 10 or something. So she comes off the plane, and I'm looking for I'm looking, I'm looking I'm looking at this. Will see this, like, little person coming. I like, don't even look at her, because I'm like, not her. And then all she comes up to me, and she's like, Kate. And I look at her, I'm like, What the fuck you are smaller than me. She's so little. Catherine is so little. I bet everyone is shocked right now, Catherine is tiny. You just have such a big personality, like, how are you so small? That was a very I just,

Catherine Danieli: 00:14:28

I just remember me that I've never I mean, there's several friends in my life. There are a few in my life where it has been, I'm in love with you instantly, right? Like that. There just is love. But I've never had a friend like you, because I've never laughed with anyone as much as I laughed that week. And we also please picture this on a laptop. I don't think we even had a fucking microphone. Or, like, did we have a microphone? We

Kate Harlow: 00:14:59

shared a microphone. We shared my bedside table in the middle of us in my tiny one bedroom apartment, like,

Catherine Danieli: 00:15:05

push two little chairs. Like, push together. We're like, taking turns putting our mouth in front of the microphone. This

Kate Harlow: 00:15:11

is the intro. We did, the intro to record

Catherine Danieli: 00:15:13

the intro, yeah, that we wrote that week, like, without any idea about what it was going to be just being together and and and talking. And this intro that all of you have loved and laughed, you know at, and that has been the best hook for the new truth podcast, not now, then we did, I think we did record our interviewing each other. Yeah, when we were together that week, the first we did, like, what is the new truth? And then the first couple episodes, and then off we went and and like any good love story, it does not just then become rainbows, no,

Kate Harlow: 00:15:53

but I have to share two significant No, three significant moments of that Vancouver week. So Catherine, also, everyone

Catherine Danieli: 00:16:01

used to go to Vancouver. I mean, that place is pretty heaven. Kate

Kate Harlow: 00:16:05

Harlow, we have to be inside of the reclamation community to be able to come to this event. But Kate Harlow is doing a two day expanded love weekend in August, when I'm home, the first weekend of August. So if you want to join the reclamation Wow, which is only 497, right now, for the last time live, we just started and and then come to my Vancouver weekend, you can see Vancouver, and I'll tell you all the greatest places to go. It's magic, but three really pivotal moments of growth that happened for us in that week. The first one I'll speak to is about me, the first time Catherine met my partner, Jeff, who is my partner of seven years at the time. How many years?

Catherine Danieli: 00:16:47

I think that was like 20 in 2019 how many years 2019

Kate Harlow: 00:16:50

and we broke up in 2021 so and it was like the beginning of the end 20 but we broke up in 2021 so it was like we were about to a couple years. COVID slowed it down. So Catherine, who loved me so much, like we, I mean, in between the invitation to the podcast in June and her coming in September to Vancouver, we were talking constantly about ideas and really connected. And Catherine, like, really saw me. And you've always from the beginning, like, see me way more than I could see myself back then. Like you really saw me and helped call me into who I am, like, maybe more than anyone. And the first time, Katherine met Jeff, who is a lovely guy, he's getting called out a lot on this episode. He's a lovely guy. He's a really good man. Love him dearly. I had his car because Catherine and I had gone to Whistler. We were doing all these things, so I was borrowing Jeff's Tiguan, which was kind of ours at the time, and we went to pick him up because he had to go back to the restaurant where he works his his restaurant that he owns. It's now a Michelin star restaurant. We went to pick him up, and Catherine was in the back seat, and Jeff gets in, and he hadn't seen me in three days, and he gets in and he's like, he's like, hey. He's like, Hi Catherine. So nice to meet you. Whatever turns around, and he's like, so blah, blah, blah, the work, work, work, work. And just starts talking about work all the way to the restaurant. We get to the restaurant, then Catherine's quiet, and we get back to my apartment, and I'm like, Why are you so weird? Like, why are you being so quiet? And you're like, do you want to know? Like, yes. And I was like, what did you think about Jeff? She's like, he's nice. I'm like, What did you really think? She's like, you sure you want to know? I'm like, Yeah. And she started crying. And she was like, Kate, he didn't even, like, look at you. He didn't even acknowledge he hadn't seen you in three days. That's your boyfriend. And then I remember, fast forward, six months later, we were in San Diego, in a hotel room, and you were texting with Andrew, these long, long, loving texts, and I showed you my text with Jeff, and it was like, how was your crying again? How was yours? And you started crying again. And you were like, Kate Harlow, do you know who you are? You need to be with someone who loves you now. I've got Patricio, who's, like, obsessed, like the most loving, over the top loving partner ever. So that was so crazy, because that was actually the seed for the beginning of of letting that relationship go. That did serve me, helped me step into my purpose, right? It served a purpose, but I at that point it was time to let it go. So that was so pivotal for me. And then a moment that I don't know if you want to share, but I just remember the birth control story like that happened on that. Remember you told me you didn't get periods. We were walking down the street and you were celebrating that you didn't get your period. Do you remember that? Sorry, I'm throwing you under the bus.

Catherine Danieli: 00:19:39

No, well, I also want to say 2019 I actually refer to 2019 as the worst year of my life. Yeah, yeah, my husband, right? You've you've heard me. You've been on the podcast for a while. You've heard me lightly share about I got married in 2017 in 2018 my husband started having health issues. So in 2019 I was deeply, deeply struggling. I had my own business. I was working for another company at the time, and I was, like, full on caregiver, taking care of my husband, as in, like, helping him drive, shower, eat. Like, that's how bad it was. And what, what I keep thinking is like that real truth of, like, God will do for you what you can't do for yourself. Like I couldn't get out of my own way, like I really was just surviving. And then are you kidding me? Like in comes fucking Care Bear love of my life, like the lighthouse. Like Kate is the lighthouse, and there I am, laughing so hard and like, peeing my pants when I'm with you, because I've touched like joy again, like, in a way that I hadn't. And I think if you don't have friends that make you laugh, like, if you are not married to someone who makes you laugh, like, what are you doing? Like, if you're not friends with people that make your life better, what are you doing? Like you, aside from my husband, are my most significant relationship in my life. And every one of Kate's clients says, I'm about to say, which is, like, nobody is you Kate or Whoa, and like, nobody embodies the lightness of love, like, that's what you are. There are many components to the heart, like, there are many aspects of love, and you are the light of love. Like that is what you are. And I don't remember this birth control story, but I obviously remember because I was actually just talking to my sister about this, that I got off birth control at the beginning of 2020, right before lockdown. Because I've essentially said to everyone I was off it for two years before getting pregnant. And yeah, right, influencing each other like I don't. What is true is I was in a consciousness of thinking it was great to not get my kid

Kate Harlow: 00:22:04

that it was just a little conversation. You cried, and you were like, what I never considered that. I that I should be connected to my period. And then from that point forward, you learned from Jasmine rose. You learned we had her on the podcast. You, you started going down the rabbit hole of like, deep devotion to your cycle and your body and the feminine. And I just remember that being a really pivotal moment. So it was like all these moments that happened, and just hearing the reflection, it's like you came into my life to reflect who I really am. Because I, even though I was doing my work, I believed in myself as a I was, you know, good on stage, good at teaching, good at coaching like I believed in myself, but I didn't see myself like I didn't like you saw me in a way I'd never been seen before, and you always held it like I have so many saved messages in my phone from Voxer of Catherine saying, Kate Harlow, remember who you are. This is, this is who you are. Blah, blah, and she would go on these giant rants, and it was, like the first couple years like I when I was in Vancouver, when I was still, you know, I was so much more in alignment than ever before, and still, there was such a big part of my life, Jeff in Vancouver, like that was so out of alignment, and I still needed that external reflection that you gave me so much like you constantly held the mirror for me and held me through that so many times, and then I brought the light of love or the joy, like we both played such an integral role at the most important time. You helped me let go of that life, and I helped you light your way during a very dark time like divinity. Say this somewhere,

Catherine Danieli: 00:23:44

I feel like we need to somehow play the first episode of the new truth. Don't we, like, say or, oh, wait a minute, no, I'm remembering when we were, like, playing around with the intro, and you were like, and it was like, I'm the fun one. And I'd be like, and I'm the serious one.

Kate Harlow: 00:24:02

Oh yeah, that was a good

Catherine Danieli: 00:24:03

we did say that, but that was, that was the joke. Like, if you've been listening for five years, I'm the serious one. Like, I'm the serious one. My friends have joked with me, I'm just not funny. And then, of course, I become funny in 2021 and make hilarious reels on Instagram that take off,

Kate Harlow: 00:24:22

but you got, yeah, you're so funny that you got billions of views. This is hilarious. Like,

Catherine Danieli: 00:24:27

like, talk about wholeness and like, aspects of ourselves. Like, yes, I grounded you Right. Like, I brought you into the embodiment of body and inner knowing, and you took me up, right up into the lightness of love and help me reclaim and remember that part of myself too, in the way it doesn't look like yours, but now I can access joy. And did access joy, and if you don't have, I mean, we have talked every week for five years. Yeah, every single week for five years. We. There are so many episodes that we have recorded and then not used my friends. There are so many times where we get intentions to record, and then we start talking, and then we're both crying because life is happening and like it was just not the day and and I think this is the magic of relationship, and like we what I hope, I mean, hope you take away so many things, right, starting with celebrating yourself as you listen to this, but that like you the May the new truth make you question every single relationship you have. Yes, right? Absolutely, and not from blame, right? Because we don't do that here, right? But from, does this person add or take away from my feel? Yes, right? How do I feel when I'm around them? But now I'm on the edge of my seat, because you said you have three moments, so I need to

Kate Harlow: 00:25:45

hear, Oh, the other moment that was so it didn't feel I don't know if it was a turning point. It's so funny because we took these photos. We did get the album cover from that photo shoot, but we did a photo shoot with this woman that we found last minute, and we we went kind of around North Vancouver, and we went to the lighthouse Park, which is, you know, like any Lighthouse Park, beautiful on the ocean Vancouver, ocean mountains, like, stunning. And we went and did photos in there. And I just remember, like, how much fun that day was, and how fun, like, especially once we were in the forest. And then I just remember that moment where they took pictures of us, where our backs are to the camera, and we're looking out to the ocean, and we're arm in arm, and we're just sobbing. And we just, like, sobbed, and had, like, the most heart, expansive, beautiful day. And it was so symbolic of, really, the birth of the new truth, because that week in Vancouver was the birth of the truth. Yes, yeah, the other one was inception, but that was the birth, yes. And, and all the people, all the people planting the seeds, were like, sex that didn't, it didn't the sperm didn't get through. And then finally the sperm got through. We're gonna, like, compare it to birth well,

Catherine Danieli: 00:27:01

so when I made the joke about, like it wasn't all rainbows and butterflies, right? So we make the commitment to do this, right? Like we had a baby in 2019 in Vancouver, and then we really struggled with childcare for now, baby in the beginning. So we, we've never combined businesses, right? Like, what you have heard are two people with their own businesses, but share this podcast. So at the time, Kate and I had a hard time prioritizing this, and I think there was probably several months of rescheduling on each other, like neither one of us did it more than the other, like we both were doing it, until finally we said, All right, we have businesses. We have lives like, this isn't just going to happen magically, like, let's decide when it works for us to record every single week. And we chose Mondays and Wednesdays and, gosh, we did so many episodes just us. Like, we didn't even have interviews for a while. Maybe we did, and it was like, mostly your friends, but you know when, before we hit record, I wanted to talk about that in the sense of, if you're not, like, really deeply listening, and someone just says, like, oh, like, follow your heart. We like, miss the work and the effort that has to be done. Like you partner with life, right? Like you're not just taken for a boat ride, because deciding those times actually changed my life, like it created structure. And I had to look deeply at how I didn't have structure around my business, and then the way I was doing client work, and also, right, it was 2020, so what was I telling myself at the time? Right? Like I can just, I'm not leaving any I'm not going anywhere, I'm not doing anything, so I'll just work as much as I possibly can. And the podcast was starting to take off, and clients were coming from the podcast,

Kate Harlow: 00:28:50

and we didn't know COVID was coming January 28 2020 was like one month and maybe six weeks before the lockdown. Yeah, and we were in San Diego. No, we were in San Diego around 2020, January, 2020 at a at a business event to get inspired and be together in person. We've only been together in person three fucking times. That is insane. So like all of you are saying, You need to have all your community has to be in person. It's like we have, we have the deepest relationship, and we've been in person three times. We had that epic trip in San Diego that was so fun. And we had Amanda Rene's dog died that we looked after, we looked after Sophie, and she just died. I cried when I saw that. That was we stayed at her place and looked after her dog. I didn't even I didn't even know her, but and Amanda, but I knew her dog. I know her now because we've had her on the podcast twice. That weekend was so special. And then I went to that podcasting event on behalf of both of us in LA. Was it in LA? Yeah, February, right. No, it was March. It was. March 12. It was like, literally, oh my god, I got home and they told us, they gave us warnings. There's 250 people in this conference room, and we didn't care. We didn't know what was happening. They were like, oh, there's some disease going around everyone in law. And we were like, whatever. We just kept doing the podcasting event, and I was just learning about podcasts, and I got to go on stage and do a little spiel about the new truth, and I met, I met a podcasting man who his wife ended up becoming an amazing client of mine, who came to the immersion and met some content. We had Sinclair

Catherine Danieli: 00:30:32

was like you met the people who saved my husband's life, who saved

Kate Harlow: 00:30:34

your husband's life at the podcast, like what the divinity. So I hope when we share stories that you can feel when you are living in your truth and you are going against the grain and you're just following your own heart, this is the co creation. And yes, you have to show up. I went to the podcasting event. We went to San Diego. You came to Vancouver. We showed up on Mondays and Wednesdays. Everything is divine. I met a woman who she was on stage. Her Spiel was so cool. It was well, knit. It was like, Next Level health stuff. I didn't even really comprehend it. We had her on the podcast too, season one, and I was just mesmerized by her. And she sat next to me, and I was like, I love or maybe at the table next to me, and I would reach over, and I was like, I love you. And she was like, oh my god, we need to talk. And I think we had dinner together. And that next thing, you know, she's working with Catherine's husband, who's going through a health crisis.

Catherine Danieli: 00:31:27

Sinclair's episode, yeah,

Kate Harlow: 00:31:31

the beauty of wasn't it the business of beauty or something like that? No.

Catherine Danieli: 00:31:33

I mean, who knows. I forget what it was called. Was Sinclair. Um, cannot, Kennelly. Kennelly. Yeah, that that structure, like, I keep, like, everyone the bad news, like, if we could also, just, like, what the birth of the fairy tale, hysterical intro, women are conditioned to feel helpless, yeah, like, out of the gate. You are conditioned to think that you need more guidance than the average person, that someone else knows what's best for you, that there's a right way to do things right and a wrong way to do things and and women just wait. But they wait for the knight in surrounding armor to change their life. They wait for some perfect moment to make itself aligned rather than we or

Kate Harlow: 00:32:19

to leave it. Leave it. No relationship. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, like somebody's gonna run

Catherine Danieli: 00:32:23

so powerful. We are so powerful. We are nature. We are the pulse of life. We create life in our bodies. We create businesses and books and communities, like we are the stewards of of humanity. And I listened to so many women, like, not just decide based on how you feel, what it is that you want, and that's what we've done for five years. Like, listened over and over and over again. Like, even listened when we've met someone to interview, it's like, my body's a yes this person, my body's a no to this person. Like, we didn't start this as a hobby. And I feel like I want you to say what Brayden has always said about us, like he the the company that produces our podcast uses us as a reference point when people want to start podcasts, because Kate and I did not have a fucking business strategy for this podcast, like we we did not sit down and make a map of how we thought this is one going to go. We just shared our love and we just

Kate Harlow: 00:33:26

shared our truth. We are in the top 1.5 1.5% of podcasts in the world, in the world, and we and we have not invested there. We've done no PR like we have friends who start a podcast at the same time. We've done tons of PR who've had teams of people helping them. We do have a production company who produces the episodes, because our first agreement was, I don't want this to be more work. I don't want this to be more I'm a projector. You're like, I have no time, and so we outsource, like, the actual production side of the podcast, but editing and stuff. Even though our podcasts aren't edited. They don't edit anything, but they do a lot of work, like put it on all the platforms, and, you know, make sure, every once in a while they need to cut out something. One little weird, but it's pretty rare. It's pretty rare. But, yeah, we haven't invested anything. This has just been a passion. Well, I mean, it was for our businesses, but we did it for the joy of it. We did it for fun, that was our intention, and it's been so fun, and it's fed both of our lives and our businesses in ways we couldn't have fathomed. We had no fucking clue that this was gonna become what it has no clue

Catherine Danieli: 00:34:33

and now we have to shout out the women that we have had the privilege of meeting as a result of this podcast, clients from all over the world that never would have found us thanks to the podcast, your retreat has filled from the podcast and and you have to like, like, we are not more special than you. Yeah. Like, I keep feeling that if people are listening like, the amount of time. In my own life, right? Like she has something I don't, or like she's special and I'm not. Rather than every single one of us, like every cell in the body has a purpose and direction to make that body work. Some are responsible for the heart, some are responsible for the kidney, some are responsible for the lungs, some are responsible for the gallbladder, some are responsible for our stomach. Every single one of us has a purpose to contribute to humanity, and it doesn't have to be really big, because I liked what's also true for us is we didn't start a podcast because it was, like, everyone's saying starting a podcast is a good business strategy and like, that's what we should

Kate Harlow: 00:35:35

do. Podcasts. There are only 600,000 in the world when we start that time. Oh, I didn't. Now there's millions.

Catherine Danieli: 00:35:40

Now there's millions because people are like, Oh, everyone's starting a podcast. So I guess we'll start a podcast rather than, what are my gifts, right? And you're gonna get to hear from a human design expert later in in season two, or season whatever, it's gonna come out, about Kate and I with this woman, and hear about our different human design charts, and both Kate and I have a defined throat and like that is speaking like meant to speak. Some people are brilliant writers. Some people their gift is Instagram reels like some some people's gift is coaching, like Kate and I are designed to speak and teach like that, that it's our gifts, and that's why the podcast is so good. We also have to say we never, ever have taken notes. We just get on. We talk about what is inspiring us and what's moving through our world, and then we press record. Thank you to every person who has reached out to us. Thank you to every person who has ever shared with her friends the episode. Thank you to every person who has written to us, saying the difference is made in your life, right? Because this is vulnerable in a way, because we don't have an audience, and Kate and I aren't used to having audiences, right, and and so your feedback has meant everything to us, but every time we hit record, we imagine this light right touching all of your hearts, like you are a part of something really big, if you're here with us. And I am, I am so grateful for the women that I've had the privilege of meeting thanks to this platform.

Kate Harlow: 00:37:19

It I can't even imagine. Oh my god. And I, I the women I attract, that I work with, I'm in love with, like, I just, it's like so much alignment, because they already really deeply get the work before they walk in the door, before they it's, it's been the most beautiful exchange and beautiful way to cast our light so they can find us. I was thinking when you were saying that, that we're not special. I love that, because everyone pedestals and everyone's like, Oh, but you guys are special, like you guys are gifted, whatever. Yes, like you said, it is our right. Don't do a podcast if it's not your gift, if you you know, feel awkward speaking, or you don't like the sound of your voice or whatever, like it, you know, it doesn't mean you're meant to do what we're meant to do. But everybody has really profound gifts. Unfortunately, we were plugged into a school system that taught us we're either smart or stupid, and then half the no like, three quarters of most people left the school system feeling like they were not good enough. And, you know, and many other things contributed to that, and still do. But we all have tremendous gifts. Human Design and astrology are a great way to uncover yours. I actually don't know if I've ever told you this, I have a channel called the freak to genius channel, and it's actually from because I have a defined mind and a defined throat, and I have a channel between them. And what the freak to genius is so cool channel is, is like, I'm meant to birth new ideas in the world. I'm meant to take concepts and flip them on their head. You know how I'm always like, don't like the word boundaries. Don't like this word. Don't like that word that's actually in my chart, in my purpose. And some people will think I'm a freak and crazy, and other people will think I'm a genius and like, love the idea. It's so cool. So if you want to know more about your gifts, go get a go to Aaron Claire Jones's website. She'll talk about it. We're not she won't be on till the spring, actually, but when her book launches. But go to Aaron Claire Jones on Instagram. You can get a human design, like PDF book thing on you, and the first page is all about the gift of who you are. It's I read my clients and I cried. One of my clients got it, and I read hers and I cried because it was so her. It's incredible. It's an incredible tool to see yourself, if you can't see yourself yet. The other thing I want to speak to that you, that you talked about, is that, well, the pedestaling thing, I it reminded me of a moment I had. What year was Donald Trump, inaugurated, sort of bring him up, inaugurated. The first time, 2020 1616. Yeah, I thought so, so, so I started my business in 2016 No, uh, yeah. 2016 is when, like, I kind of started, but not really. 20 2017 is when. My first immersion was so 2016 was the beginning. Oh, yeah. I started my business that year after going to this event january 2016 because at the beginning of the year, the weekend of Donald Trump's inauguration, I was in New York City at Lincoln Center, at a mama Gina event with 2500 women from all over the world. The Women's March was happening that weekend. It was such intense energy, and Mama Gina led an incredible two day event. It was free. It was 2500 women from all different walks of life all over the world. It was insane. The energy was so crazy, and I was obsessed with her. I would go at six in the morning. That didn't start till nine. I would go at six and sit at the door just so I could get a front row seat, so I could be close to her. Because I was like, I had her on such a pedestal. I'd been listening to interviews. I'd been reading her books. I worshiped her. And I believe now, in retrospect, and we're for sure, going to have her on the podcast. I believe now, in retrospect, mom and Gina wrote pussy a reclamation. If you don't know who I'm talking about, Regina Thomas shower is her actual name. Book for all women, must read pussy a reclamation. I give it to all my clients. It's an absolute must read. And if you're activated by the title, great. Read it all the more reason to read it. Carried around. Carry it around in public. Read it on the bus. Read it on the plane. That's my favorite thing to do and shock everyone around you. So i i It's so wild thinking about this weekend. So I had her on such a pedestal, I was obsessed with her. But I think now, in retrospect, it's because she was symbolizing like me and where I'm going, my own version of it, right? So when we're jealous, or I wasn't jealous, but like comparing in some way or or feel that that discord and that pedestaling is because that person's representing something that's you that's repressed. So I'm sitting there, and I knew I was starting my business that year like it was already kind of part of the seed. The seed has had already been planted. And I was crying like, oh my god, she's so amazing. I had her on the biggest pedestal, and I remember sitting in the audience thinking, God, I wish I could be her. I wish I could be her. I could never do that. I could never be her. I could never do anything like this. And at the time, I was a speaker, I was teaching and facilitating business workshops, transformational ones, really amazing ones. So I was on stage. I was her in for someone else's company, teaching someone else's stuff, but what she was doing teaching pleasure and teaching like women how to be more powerful me more. And it was like, I was like, so wishing I could be her. And then simultaneously, my saboteur was like, you could never be her. You suck. She's so amazing. Like, you'll never have anything like this. And so to hear you say that, it's just like, holy shit. Yeah, that is where I was in 2016 at the beginning, and then the podcast has been a huge part of me, really. I mean, I was doing talks and doing little things, but, but really me stepping into being the preacher like she is, and that was the mirror in that moment, I'm

Catherine Danieli: 00:42:55

so proud of us, yeah, like I'm also having this moment of the conditioning of women to never feel enough, right? Like a reel that I never got to make was, you know, women like, you know, own a house, wrote a book, ran a marathon, have a PhD, and then it's like, Am I good enough to date? And men are like, I have a big dick. I'm like, a great catch, you know, like, yeah, yes. Like, women are always like, we're conditioned right, to not brag, right? And bragging is what mama Gina is like epic practices and invitations for women. Because I just really want to take a moment of one some of you have been with us for five years, like some of you have changed your life, not from being our clients, but just from listening to the new truth podcast, and all of you will say, You changed my life. You changed my life. No, we didn't. You did. All we've done is show up in service to ourselves and our gifts, because this feels good for us, right? I love doing this with you and and when I think of who we were in 2019, and I said this before we hit record too. I was like, we this was just something we couldn't not do, right? Like it was coming through each of us. This was a must do. And so many women don't take credit for what is theirs to take credit for. Like you did it. You've been conditioned to not take credit, right? Not appear too confident, not feel, you know, love yourself, but not too much, right? Like, celebrate, but not too don't celebrate too big, you know? And then, right, when do we think we can celebrate ourselves when we get married? We think that's the only time that you can possibly celebrate yourself. And why? You know, this is the celebration episode, Kate. We have worked really hard. Like, we have worked really hard. It has been work to prioritize showing up on Mondays and Wednesdays, right to to energetically prepare to hit record. Like, yes, we never took notes, but we were meditating, praying, eating, taking care of our bodies, to be in the frequency before we hit. Chord we have had. You know, I think what's really cool is we haven't actually had we've had, I think one conflict, like one or two bumps, really, that weren't even like big conflict, just like bumps. But our commitment to each other and working through it has enabled everything to be like so smooth and and our commitment to our own work, which, again, back to relationships. It is going to feel impossible to be in a relationship with someone who's unwilling to grow. And their growth does not have to look like yours, right? So every woman needs to like let that go. So we have that whole movement going on right now, like he has to go to workshops too and read 5000 books like me, like that doesn't define consciousness. Consciousness is self awareness. Consciousness is the willingness to course correct. Consciousness is the willingness to take responsibility for the impact I have on you. And there are things do you understand? I was so insecure in the beginning, and I never brought it to you. I just worked it like with my own coaches and mentors. It was very hard for me to believe that there was enough room for both of us, and I would believe it in my head, right? But okay, many of you have heard I was raised by a narcissist monster, right? Who was so anxious every single day, who absolutely pit my sisters and I against each other, who talked down about other women who never celebrated other women. Of course, that's an edge for me, like I don't It's not like a personality flaw, like believing that there's enough room for all women to shine, right? That there was enough goodness and love and magic for all of us to succeed. That was hard for me, and then I had, I started a podcast with another relationship coach

Catherine Danieli: 00:46:39

that was hard. That was hard for a while there, and

Catherine Danieli: 00:46:44

it really brought me to some dark places in myself. And that was the gift that without doing this, I never would have actually faced and healed all of that stuff. And then again, how important is this? If you're working with women like talk about being of better service to working with women, because we don't talk about this enough. We don't talk about the sisterhood wounds we all are carrying, right the mother wounds we are carrying just by virtue of being alive right now, right by the history of patriarchy, no matter what our own mothers did. But we are an un mothered planet, and so this, like, like, wherever you are listening right now, maybe you started listening six months ago, or maybe you started listening five years ago. Like, how often do you sit with like, I'm enough, and what I'm doing is enough, and what I'm doing is amazing, and I don't need my life to look like anyone else's. And how can I be proud of who I am? Because the whole thing, they want us to be pitted against each other. They want us to compare ourselves to other people. They want you to never feel good enough. Because what do you do when you're insecure? You buy shit. You buy shit you don't need thinking that's going to make you feel better. I also want to give a shout out around the light of love that you are, because I was so heavy around personal development too, right? I'm in the trenches people around their trauma and trauma resolution and and in my own pain all the time, right? And like you, you essentially stand really doesn't have listen ladies, you know what to do that that way. It doesn't have to be that way. Like you can just play like you can just remember that you know how to play and you know how to be innocent and you know how to come home right to the truth of who you are. And that's not to say that trauma work isn't important, right? I did 13 years of that for clients, but this like, like, moment of celebration around the anniversary episode is like, are you doing personal development from a place of heaviness, but are you doing personal development, thinking that yours need to be fixed, right? Or you're a problem to be solved, rather than you are a mystery to be unlocked, right? Your book to treasure and a treasure hunt. Oh, my God, that's so good, because I just keep like this, partnering with the celebrating ourselves. It's that recognition of what has what has happened through this container with you, like I am lighter, I am softer, like I take myself less seriously, like I've created more structure in my life and my business. I have learned how to be less afraid of darkness, but also when I'm in the darkness. I now have a friend to walk through with me, because we have gone through some dark shit in the past five years, right? And, no, we don't share all of it on the podcast, you know, but so that's a reminder of like we are human, right? And you would often hear us after the alchemy, you know, had occurred, devotion, right? I hear Amy Natalie, who we think at the on the podcast, like almost five times, her podcast is the feminine frequency, and what's her book The feminine way? I think this was like pillar number one for her, like she the book is seven pillars, or something, of the feminine and and devotions number one. And I want everyone to feel that, like that's. What we've done, like, we've been devoted to something and in service to something higher than ourselves. And you need to know why you're doing something like, Oh, I'm working out so I can be skinny, so that then I'll be loved. You're not going to be motivated to do that. Like, no, I'm working out because I treasure and honor and cherish my body, and know that moving my body opens my energy so I can hear God and the divine, so I can hear my intuition, so I can hear my truth more easily. Most of you are saying you can't hear because you're not making space to hear, and you need to prioritize that space. No one's going to do that for you. So my was my very long winded way of saying, I'm so fucking proud of us, and I'm so grateful for you. So there is no one like you,

Kate Harlow: 00:50:47

no words, no words. You brought me into my power and my grounded like, like, confidence, like I was like the fit I was like a fairy. I still am, but like a more grounded fairy, more like a wood nymph now. But, yeah, really, I was ungrounded like I was I was rescuing, you know, I was like, my heart is all of our hearts are so big, but I lived from my heart, and I didn't live from my feet, like my feet were not planted. So I was helping people, and it was impacting me. And, you know, and then living in Vancouver, and all of the layers, and you brought me, you brought me back to the earth, back to the ground, and I'm a Taurus, which is funny, I'm actually a triple Taurus, so I'm meant to be really earthy and sensual and slow, and I'm a projector.

Catherine Danieli: 00:51:44

Oh, my God, that's why Africa is so good for you. Yes, yeah,

Kate Harlow: 00:51:48

I'm a triple Taurus and a projector. So Anna lion, Leo, rising, Leo, north node. So, like, I'm all Taurus, I'm all Earth and lion. Like, I'm meant to be in Africa moving. You guys are probably getting sick of Africa, but I'm not but, but that's like, that's the gift that you and the podcast brought to me. Is just like, I'm I'm grounded in every decision I made. Like, I mean, the unscripted woman was born. The funny thing is, my my business started out being called Ignite your light. That was the very first program I created where I birthed the expanded love method, heroin saboteur was birthed in ignite your light. I thought it was just like a program, curriculum, but it turned out it was like a method, a coaching method. So again, that came through, right? It all came through, but it was ignite your light. And I remember my friend just simply asked. She's like, hey, obviously you're meant to do your own thing. Like, you're really gifted at teaching and coaching. Like, what is it? And I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, as if I could do my own thing. She's like, Well, what do you want more of? What do you see? Like, she just kept to ask Janelle, you know, her our friend, and she said, What do you want more of in the world. And I said, I want more women with their hearts open. I want more women to be the bright lights that they are. Everyone's so dull like, I just want to brighten up the world with women and and she was like, Okay, that's it. And we just brainstormed the title, and that was, ignite your light, was the beginning. And that's it. And so,

Unknown: 00:53:20

yeah, I mean, the power of female friendship is what we're modeling. It's everything.

Kate Harlow: 00:53:24

And it's not friendship. It's like aligned sacred sisterhood, which means when you can't, and we've said this so many times, but I mean, you cannot hear it enough. You cannot have aligned sacred sisterhood with women who are only living from their saboteurs. I have an expanded love masterclass coming in April. April, 7 week. Put it in your calendar. There's an expanded love masterclass coming. But like the saboteurs, most women develop their relationships around that. Like, one person's controlling, one person's a perfectionist, next person's a soft sacrifice. Their next person's the like whatever, and they're extractive relationships, just like we do with love, right? They're extractive. They're, you owe me something, I owe you something. They're not mutually supportive. They're threatened by each other. They're they're it's so different you have the number one key for Sacred sisterhood is sovereignty. If a woman is not sovereign unto herself, aka, takes full responsibility, like those two little, tiny, like things that we had come up, that we deepen through, just like we both do in our marriages and relationships. The reason we deep marriages, I don't have any, but so many marriages, but we deepen through our conflict. And it wasn't conflict time we were fighting. It was like bumps, something came up, and it's like we work through it by sharing our own hearts and our own pain, not by saying, Catherine, you do this thing, and it really hurts me, and I don't like when you do that. It's not, wasn't about each other, it was about what we were. Own internal, deeper vulnerability of what we were experiencing. And that is the only way to deepen an intimacy. If you are blaming pointing fingers, wanting someone else to be different, you came to me and get like, Kate, you're doing too much of this. You're doing too like we have been each other's greatest cheerleaders, greatest supports, holding so much space, we've messaged each other 10 kajillion times like that's it healing the hearts of women through modeling female love. And you're all fucking sorry that was that was Blamey women. Let me take the blame out. Women have been taught to get this really special love from a man, and there is no greater love you'll experience in your life than the love of sacred sisterhood. Yes,

Catherine Danieli: 00:55:54

that is the truth, and we don't need even yourself. Quantity like, I feel like that's another plus two of we're all, I mean, we're taught everything is more more and more and more better, better, better, better, like, rather than No. I mean, I'm in the season of my life right now, in motherhood, where I've just said I just need like three, like two or three, like Ride or Die mothers that see me, I don't need this is another rant I'll do later around. I don't need a like minded mother, like I don't. She doesn't have to parent the way that I do. She has to like me, right? So also, when you're looking for friends, like, be careful, of like, oh, we have to be the same, rather than, are we serving the same thing, right? Are we serving bringing greater consciousness to the world? Are we serving doing deep work on ourselves, like, are we serving wanting to break free from what patriarchy has told us about female friendships, you know? And I, I mean, I think one of my friends does reflect this to me, as I'm sure your friends say to you, like, I've just always valued girlfriends, like, even though I grew up in the most fucked up home around women, you know, and I don't have a relationship really, with my sisters, and I always had really good girlfriends, like I did, I did, and I because I knew in My bones that how important it was, you know, how, how life giving, how life giving it is, and so for over five years, we've gone through everything, just like all humans have, because Being human means there's death and rebirth, cycles and seasons and changes all the Time. You ended your relationship with Jeff. You freaking moved to Greece. I mean, I feel like we need a minute for that, really. You move because I couldn't get on to Athens Greece. You live in Greece. Kate Harlow,

Kate Harlow: 00:57:53

I moved to Athens spontaneously, on a whim because of COVID. I couldn't get on an airplane. I was supposed to go to Costa Rica, which I still went for three months. My friend said, Why did I was trying to rebook my ticket. Why didn't? Why didn't you just move to Greece? And I'd never considered it, although, when I was 25 years old, I said, One day I'll live in Italy or in Europe. And at that point, Greece did touch my heart the most when I backpacked Europe. So it's funny that I said Italy. I think I was like in fantasy because of Under the Tuscan Sun. But I came to Greece when I was when I was 19 years old, I backpacked Europe with my best friend Lindsay Todd, and I didn't know this. Oh, four months, I could tell you everywhere we went. We went to 12 countries in four months, and we stayed on one Greek island, which I still have yet to visit again. I have to go there one Greek island called Eos, I O S, E Os. It was the party Island back then, and we stayed there for a month. We backpacked here for four months. Went to 12 countries, and we were in one Greek island for a whole entire month. And it was everyone thought we were working there for this season. People would be like, Oh, which bar Do you work at again? And we were like, no, no, we're just here to have fun. To have fun. Like, we were at the beach bar all day long, partying, swimming, like, having a blast see all the same people every day. Then we were at the nightclubs in a little square at night, partying, whatever, staying in a little pencil and with a family that would make us Greek authentic meals. Like, it's absolutely insane to think actually,

Catherine Danieli: 00:59:19

really haven't talked about what an extraordinary life you have led.

Kate Harlow: 00:59:23

And that was when I was 20 years old. And can you imagine 20 year old me being like, you're gonna live in this country one day like what I mean? No way in hell would I have ever even comprehended that. And now I live here and and

Catherine Danieli: 00:59:40

the same day that Kate moved to Greece is the same day her now boyfriend moved to Greece, yeah,

Kate Harlow: 00:59:47

September 2. Well, no, I that's not true. I didn't move here that day. I flew here for the two months that I was here for those two immersions the member 2021 because of COVID, I did two years, yes, and I was. And I decided to come extra long, because all the women coming to the immersion were nervous about flying and traveling during COVID, so I wanted them to know Greece was safe. So I was like, Oh, I'll go early. I'll spend some time in Athens and the islands. I had not spent any time in Athens. I'd been flying through London to get to the islands. Just was easier flight path from Vancouver. So that trip, I came to Athens at the beginning and at the end. And I landed in and that's the trip I at the end, when I ended up missing my flight, deciding to move here. Went to Costa Rica for three months, and then came back March 1 and moved here without knowing I even there was a visa. I didn't even know how I just was doing it. Marianna, his boyfriend, who's so like, by the book British, he's like, how is Kate moving to to Greece? She doesn't have a passport. Just, how was she and Marianna, like, katiana, how are you moving to I'm like, I don't know. I'll figure it out when I get there. Like, literally, just following, like, because also I trusted if it didn't work out, whatever, I'm like, I'll figure it out. And so, but Patricio, my boyfriend, and I both that trip. So it was a trip where I decided to move here, and he was moving here. He flew from Argentina. I flew from Vancouver, Canada. September 2, we landed within an hour of each other and stayed, we're staying in the same neighborhood, and he we didn't meet till eight months later, but yeah, got here on the same day, and

Catherine Danieli: 01:01:21

yeah, and I had a baby in the past. I mean,

Kate Harlow: 01:01:24

your entire you, okay, you when I met, you lived in Boston. Oh,

Catherine Danieli: 01:01:29

yeah, I did. I moved to were

Kate Harlow: 01:01:30

not happy. And you and Andrew had that. I had an astrology reading with this woman that was really expensive, but epic that you, you found through Zoe, Jenna, Zoe, the Human Design lady. You found this woman, Dana or something, and she did astrology readings. And you and Andrew had an astrology reading, and you were like, Kate, I need to move. Sorry. I feel aligned. I hate Boston. I don't feel aligned. I don't feel aligned. And you and Andrew both had your sun lines or something like that, going through Charlotte, and you went to visit, and you were like, Oh, my God, this is the place. And then you rented your first house while you built, bought a piece of property, built your dream house, built a beautiful, big house.

Catherine Danieli: 01:02:11

Yeah, everything I only, or I can only, what a perfect reflection. I can only orient having a baby and, like, Forget everything else before then, yeah, yes, I did move, yeah. And we moved in october 2020, right from Boston to Charlotte, and I had the best time of my life, unbelievably happy. Everything changed, yeah, you know. And I will say I saw someone write this really powerful post about, essentially, can we stop gaslighting women to always say that like they're the problem, like, if you're not happy somewhere, like that's on you, and minimize the the impact our environment has on us. And it was like it was so powerful, because while yes, right, we are responsible for our happiness, our environment does matter, right? Who you're friends with matters who your partner is matters and and for many of you listening like, yeah, maybe you just aren't living where you can thrive, and that's okay, because so many women think like, oh, I'm a failure. Then if I can't make myself happy right here. And what's interesting about Boston is I was unhappy not because of Boston, but because of the what I had just gone through with Andrew, like major, major fucking trauma of my husband at 35 him being 35 years old, almost dying, right? And and, like, not knowing what was happening, and being in this house that was filled with so much pain, right? That together, we looked at each other one day and we're like, we can't grow here. Like it's it's over, like, this place is so much pain, and so many people were worried for us. So many people didn't support, you know, the decision, like so many people were like, What are you doing, you know? And, yeah, what were we doing? Built a house in a place we'd never lived before, you know, like looking back, you probably would have said, let's rent first, you know, before we rent it, I know, but we bought the land. We had bought the land, but, but like this, this place of like, there are no mistakes. Like, I really, like, back to my Marla Madison episode, if you didn't hear me, like, be coached by her. And then I did my work that she suggested, and I sat with it, and I got to arrive in this place of like, everything has been perfect, right? And we are always growing. We are always expanding in consciousness. There is always course correction. Like, there are no mistakes like, so there's no shame about dating guys you shouldn't have been dating, right? No shame for staying too long in a job. Like, no, no shame around all of it, because it just takes what it takes. Right, like it takes the time that it takes and your devotion to it, that that leads to the shift. But yes, I did move in the past, like few years, and now I don't live

Kate Harlow: 01:05:10

in Boston. It's it's our curriculum. It's all our curriculum. And I even think, like our culture is so obsessed with forever. Our culture is so obsessed with like, like, are you? Oh, my God, Madeline, you had the most beautiful baby. Okay, Catherine does not show pictures of her baby, but she has the most beautiful baby on planet Earth. She just showed me a picture on her phone, but, but, oh, that was to show me the time I did, because this is a really long episode. I didn't notice the que. I just saw Madeline and got distracted. I was just gonna say, like, we're afraid of forever. I mean, we just want forever. Like, okay, Catherine, is this your forever home? You can be in Charlotte forever. Are you gonna be in Athens forever? Are you gonna be in Greece forever? Are you gonna be in with that marriage forever? I'm gonna be in this job forever. Like,

Catherine Danieli: 01:05:58

it's how we control the biggest gift of the truth,

Kate Harlow: 01:06:00

living from your truth, living from the frequency of the heart, is being present in your life and trusting the unfolding the redirection. I now live in Africa, 1/3 of the year in a tent, 1/3 of the last year I have spent without planning it in Africa. At the end of the two months, I'm going back in a week and a half, I will be there when this episode comes out for two months, and it was supposed to be three weeks. At Life is full of unexpected twists and turns. You will be guided. You don't need to have a plan for forever that is rooted in fear. And you know there's so much you're here to experience, like, who knows where you and Andrew are going to end up if you stay where you are, or if you end up somewhere else? Like, there's so much here for us in the present moment and in the unfolding of our lives, and

Catherine Danieli: 01:06:57

when you future trip like that, like your obsession about forever, what's going to happen? It's just trying to be in control. Like, let's call it for what it is. And last time I checked, we don't have control over life. We don't have control over our children. We don't have control when you meet your person. We don't have control over literally anything except ourselves and like, that's what sovereignty is. You absolutely have control over how you behave, how you think, how you feel, how you spend your time, but most women have been conditioned to focus so much right on what's outside of themselves that they then wonder why they're feeling so helpless and lonely and afraid because no one's taking responsibility for how they show up and like you know, good old Glinda, the Good Witch, said, like the power is in you all along, like there is nobody's coming to save you because you don't need saving and and if you don't have friends reminding you of your power, right, try on, just finding one person or stay tuned. So this is also an invitation, like you're going to want to listen to the next few episodes the new truth, because more big changes are coming. But Kate is about to borrow something that you've all been waiting for on, how to find friends, essentially like how to be in the frequency of this message and not have to work so hard or feel so alone with the way that you're living your life and to continue to be fed from this gorgeous speaker, but fed from the hose of light, of of really, how magical life gets to be. And I will just Forever, forever, be grateful for for this with you. And also podcasting means it's there forever. So like, 20 years from now, we're gonna get to go back and listen to some of these episodes. These episodes like it's not going it can't go anywhere.

Kate Harlow: 01:08:45

Still gonna be there. I Well, you did a prayer at the beginning. So I don't know if we've ever shared this, but every episode, we do a three step grounding process to connect to ourselves, and then we do a invocation or prayer, mostly by Catherine. I only learn to do them from you, so I kind of just copy what you say. But Catherine, every single time I mean, you were meant to lead a mystery school that today, when you did it, before we started, I was like, oh, I want to be in her Mystery School. It was so powerful. And I was bawling, and she, just like in the prayer, took us through the journey of the call for the podcast, and all the if you've read the book The Alchemist, it's the alchemist, right? It's like, or it's the hero's journey, like we heard the call. We heard the call, and we said yes, and we went through all the hurdles we had to go through within ourselves and externally, to show up, to commit, to find a company to help us to I mean, even the divinity of that I posted on Facebook, does anyone know how to start a podcast and how to produce a podcast? I got 10 million responses, and one of those people was someone I went to high school with, Michelle Abrams, and I was like, they have a company called amplify. You amplify. I was gonna say, alchemize you amplify. You. You can look it up if you so.

Unknown: 01:10:01

Shout out to them. Yeah, shout out to them. Massive,

Kate Harlow: 01:10:05

amazing. And I went to high school and elementary school, I think, with Michelle, she was a year older than me, and her brother, Braden, who ended up taking over the company. He's now the CEO, and Braden is a legend, and he and a love, I mean, just such a beautiful guy. And I actually went to coaching school with him too, so he was in my first semester of coaching school, so we got to know each other really intimately in that course, but not that kind of intimate. And we he's been such a huge support for us. And Michelle, who produces our videos, and Troy and that, like that company, has been massive because

Catherine Danieli: 01:10:41

we don't want to work to amplify you.

Kate Harlow: 01:10:45

And here, you know, we didn't, haven't had to work. We haven't had to do anything except hit record and jam out and write a little blurb after and and come up with the title, and that's it. So anything else you want to share before we wrap? I mean, it's been like the longest podcast episode ever

Catherine Danieli: 01:11:07

trust your journey, enjoy your journey, and and we do have changes to the podcast that are coming, and this is the setup Episode for that probably most of you have been listening for the past two and a half years, have an idea about what's going to happen. But you know this, this remembrance that there is no nothing is linear, like it's not oh, it just, you know, you walk up, that you climb the ladder, and then you reach the top, and then you're all set. It's you. There is no ladder, it's a slide and a spiral, and your journey is perfect, right? No, you're it's never too late to start over. You know? It's never too late to start a project that you've been wanting to and it will always be okay when you tell the truth, right? So much of our chaos and pain is a result of lying to ourselves. Is a result of trying to control life like is a result of, you know, the making decisions because of obligation or guilt on who you think you should be to other people, rather than you know who you are, and the new truth is going to be going in a new direction. And I

Kate Harlow: 01:12:29

am leaving the podcast. Oh, I didn't know if you were going to say it or not. I

Catherine Danieli: 01:12:34

think it has to be said because we're just literally doing one more episode. That's the goodbye. And similar to this one, we

Kate Harlow: 01:12:41

have two more. We have two more. Maybe, okay, one, maybe two. Well, one,

Catherine Danieli: 01:12:45

one, saying goodbye, like the episode of goodbye and yes, and like this episode, we're going to talk about how we got to that decision right, and the consciousness of how to end and how to let go and how to trust everything that's happening. Because I'm sure you can please imagine this was not made easily nor lightly, you know. But it doesn't diminish what just happened over the past five years, you know. And you you know, the thing I will just say about celebrating and ending, are there women who walk down the aisle knowing they're marrying the wrong person, yes. And are there women who walk down the aisle believing with all of their heart that this is their person and it's going to last forever? Yes, and then it's not right then, then one day, it's not aligned anymore, and it doesn't fit, you know, who they are and their changes of their life, and that doesn't mean they married the wrong person, right? Like, that's another narrative were were changing, and there's nothing wrong about the past or this decision or the future, and in fact, you're going to hear in the next episode just how fucking beautiful and spectacular it's it's been. But I will you know, thank you for being with us like thank you so much for loving us and and, no one. I mean, if no one was listening, this would not be fun. No

Unknown: 01:14:04

one was listening to the podcast, we probably would have stopped,

Catherine Danieli: 01:14:08

you know, if no one was listening, because, really, we started because we wanted to serve you right, like, that's what we started. We We started with all of you in mind, like all of you at home on your phones feeling miserable, and we wanted to show you you don't have to live like this. Like you don't have to live like this. You. There is a much, much better way of living and and I love you. Kate Harley, can be in my you are going to be in my life forever. I can say forever with you. But we're going to leave you with a cliffhanger on this episode.

Kate Harlow: 01:14:45

I'm crying over here, so I can't say anything else. Yeah, um, but this podcast has changed my life, and also I'm not going anywhere. For those of you

Unknown: 01:14:56

who are worried about the new truth is staying. The new truth is. Saying, but it will be Kate harlows as going places, big, big, big places.

Kate Harlow: 01:15:07

Yeah. So it's been a journey. And I love you.

Catherine Danieli: 01:15:12

I love you, and we love you, every single one of you, wherever you are, we believe in you. You deserve the world. You deserve to be happy. You get one life, and you get to make it you get to make it fabulous. Yes, and there are people who want that for you, right? There are women who are aching for the exact same thing. I was aching for you. I didn't know that I needed you, but God did, right? The Goddess did, and she brought me to you. But there, I think that that's it too. Like, there are women who ache for the kind of friendship that you ache for too, and you are the creator of it, right? You are the creator of

Kate Harlow: 01:15:50

it. You have to be as you, as you change and evolve, the people in your life will naturally not like it. Like, I'm just thinking about one of my, all of my clients, but one of them I'm working with right now, like just going through it, where everyone in her life is challenging her choices and challenging her following her heart and her truth, and it's like you have to be so devoted to your own truth and just know everyone else eventually will catch up and get you used to it, and then you create the space for the right aligned people who will support you on your journey to show up. We all have gifts. I My My hope is that your biggest takeaways from this episode is sisterhood, essential, sacred sisterhood. You must be sovereign. You must be sovereign in order to attract that, have that celebration, celebrating the shit out of yourself. I'm so fucking proud of us. Catherine Daniele and this podcast has changed my life. I'm so grateful for every woman who's listened, every woman who spread the word to her friends, every woman who's talked about us, who shared, I mean, how many therapist clients we've had that have shared it with all their clients like it's just been unbelievable. The amount of support we've had, and for all the guests we've had, all who've also helped us spread the word for this love so sisterhood and that we're not here to do it alone as women. We're not it's so unnatural to be alone and to do it alone, and even when I when the new truth shifts direction, I mean, you'll you'll find out more next week, but Catherine will still be there. She'll still be on the journey with me, just in a different capacity. I'm sure she'll also make little cameos, but that's to come. And then the last thing is that you have tremendous extraordinary gifts. Every single one of us has extraordinary gifts. You are not meant to be in a job, you hate a relationship, you hate live in a city you hate. Feel like shit every day. You have extraordinary gifts, and when you learn what they are and start to explore them and get to know them and create intimacy with them, your whole life will change, and you get to have a life you love.

Catherine Danieli: 01:17:53

Amen. Amen. So stay with us.

Kate Harlow: 01:17:56

Stay with us at the anniversary for the next couple

Catherine Danieli: 01:18:01

weeks and share like we we invited right share online like celebrating

Kate Harlow: 01:18:07

the new truth season five. I mean, five years in five, yet wonder what that's gonna be like season five, five years of the new truth consistently, every single Tuesday. Wow. Massive. Hundreds. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Love you, love you. We'll see you next week.

Kate Harlow: 01:18:35

Hi, it's Kate. Thank you so much for listening to the new truth podcast. For more of Katherine and I, come hang out with us in the new truth movement Facebook group. We are in there. That's where we're sharing all about our programs and our free workshops that we do. You can come join us there and ask as many questions as you want about the podcast episodes about dating relationships, any struggles you're having out there, we would love to support you. So come hang out with us in the new troop movement Facebook group, and we will see you soon. You.