Episode 20

Living an Unscripted Life with Juliana from Boho Beautiful

Kate is joined by the incredibly beautiful Juliana from Boho Beautiful—yogi, creator, truth-teller, and rebel soul—for a heart expansive, deeply inspiring conversation on what it really means to live an unscripted life.

They go beyond the pretty Instagram version of freedom and explore the raw, courageous truth of walking away from the conventional path… and choosing alignment, authenticity, and soul over the perception of safety. 

Together, we dive into:

  • What it took for Juliana and her partner to leave everything behind and create an expansive life
  • The spiritual initiations that come when you break the rules and trust your own path 
  • The power of trusting yourself when the world doesn’t understand your choices
  • What’s actually waiting for you on the other side of the script

This conversation is a love letter to the woman who knows she was made for something different. Who’s ready to say no to the life she should live… and yes to the one her soul is starving for.

A glimpse into possibilities, even when you're married with kids - you can still live an unscripted life!! 

The Immersion - April 25- May 2, 2026 https://www.theunscriptdwoman.com/the-immersion

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About the Guest:

Juliana Spicoluk is a globally recognized yoga and wellness teacher, author, and visionary co-founder of Boho Beautiful—a conscious lifestyle brand and digital movement that has touched the lives of millions around the world. With over 3 million subscribers on YouTube and over half a billion video views, Juliana has redefined what it means to bring spiritual practice into the modern world, offering a unique blend of yoga, meditation, Pilates, and mindful living that resonates deeply with a global audience. Her journey began after a career-ending injury shifted her path from being an Olympic-level rhythmic gymnast to a lifelong exploration of healing, self-inquiry, and inner transformation. Holding her yoga teacher training certifications from many yoga schools in India and Costa Rica, as well as spending a large amount of time studying mindful meditation practices in Nepal and Tibet, Juliana channels her experiences into content that merges physical movement with deep spiritual intention. Through Boho Beautiful’s viral videos, best-selling books, transformational programs, and philanthropic work—including a 52-city charity yoga tour—she has built not just a brand, but a mission-driven platform dedicated to elevating consciousness, empowering others to return to their truth, and living with grace, compassion, and purpose. Alongside all of this, Juliana is also a devoted mother to two children, a role that continually deepens her spiritual practice and fuels her passion for creating a more conscious, loving world.


Connect with Juliana:

YouTube: @bohobeautiful

Instagram: @bohobeautifullife

Boho Beautiful App: https://bohobeautiful.tv/

Website: www.bohobeautiful.life



Transcript
Juliana Spicoluk:

Soon as you wake up and decide that this

Juliana Spicoluk:

doesn't feel right for me, I don't want this. I want

Juliana Spicoluk:

something else. I want to feel and experience my life in a

Juliana Spicoluk:

completely different way from what I've been told. Then at

Juliana Spicoluk:

times, society can label you as crazy or, well, you're just

Juliana Spicoluk:

That's insane. How could you do that? Like you're saying you

Juliana Spicoluk:

have kids, you have responsibilities, you have all

Juliana Spicoluk:

of these things like, how could you just pick up your life and

Juliana Spicoluk:

move somewhere else? But to me, I think if we can step away from

Juliana Spicoluk:

this old construct that I feel like, planetarily, spiritually,

Juliana Spicoluk:

collective consciousness right now is starting to shift from

Juliana Spicoluk:

and realize that we don't need to live that way anymore, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

that we can create a new world for ourselves, for our own

Juliana Spicoluk:

families.

Kate Harlow:

Hello, my loves. Before you get into this really

Kate Harlow:

special, really beautiful conversation and episode, I

Kate Harlow:

wanted to tell you a little bit about Juliana, in case you don't

Kate Harlow:

know her, Juliana Spike is a globally recognized yoga

Kate Harlow:

teacher, Pilates wellness, author, and a visionary and co

Kate Harlow:

founder of boho beautiful. So I know so many women follow boho

Kate Harlow:

beautiful and do yoga and pilates online with them. She

Kate Harlow:

and her husband, she shares the story, but they started in a van

Kate Harlow:

traveling around, recording videos, and they have now have

Kate Harlow:

over 3 million subscribers on YouTube, and have had over half

Kate Harlow:

a billion views. So they're really, really making an impact

Kate Harlow:

in the world. And Juliana, my I mean, one of my favorite things

Kate Harlow:

about her, we met in Costa Rica. We're both living, I kind of

Kate Harlow:

like the escape pandemic, living in Costa Rica, following our

Kate Harlow:

hearts, following our unscripted lives in 2021 and our paths

Kate Harlow:

crossed, and that's where we connected for the first time.

Kate Harlow:

But she really is the embodiment, embodiment inside

Kate Harlow:

out, of wellness and of love and of heart and of beauty, and she

Kate Harlow:

just has created a massive movement. And one of my favorite

Kate Harlow:

things about this conversation that I hope sparks you on your

Kate Harlow:

own unscripted path is that her unscripted path still includes

Kate Harlow:

having a husband. She has two beautiful little children, a

Kate Harlow:

baby and a toddler, and, you know, is still living

Kate Harlow:

unconventionally and following our heart and has created a

Kate Harlow:

massive movement based on really her purpose in the world. So my

Kate Harlow:

my intention with having her on is to expand and inspire you

Kate Harlow:

that it's possible to be unscripted in so many ways, and

Kate Harlow:

I will continue to have guests on that represent different

Kate Harlow:

options and different ways that women can really live a life

Kate Harlow:

that's in alignment with their own hearts. Juliana truly has

Kate Harlow:

the energy of an angel, and I absolutely love connecting with

Kate Harlow:

her. So I hope you enjoy this beautiful conversation, spread

Kate Harlow:

it and share the episode with all the women you know who need

Kate Harlow:

a little boost and a reminder that we can follow our hearts

Kate Harlow:

and we can live an unconventional, unscripted life

Kate Harlow:

and go our own way and enjoy we'll see you soon.

Kate Harlow:

Hello, beautiful. Welcome to the new truth podcast. Hello,

Kate Harlow:

Juliana,

Juliana Spicoluk:

hello, hello, hello. Welcome

Kate Harlow:

back. Yes, it's been a while. It has. I was

Kate Harlow:

trying to think, um, this morning, I was trying. I didn't

Kate Harlow:

look up the episode, but I had you and mark on, maybe two years

Kate Harlow:

ago.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Yes, I think it was maybe a little over two.

Juliana Spicoluk:

It was, we were in Costa Rica. I remember doing the yes episode

Juliana Spicoluk:

with you. So that was, yeah, I would say, over two years ago,

Juliana Spicoluk:

which is crazy. I feel like so much has happened since the last

Juliana Spicoluk:

time we spoke. We

Kate Harlow:

have a lot to catch up on. We'll do it here on the

Kate Harlow:

live, live on the

Juliana Spicoluk:

podcast. But yeah, it's funny, as I find that

Juliana Spicoluk:

also through social media, it's even though so much time has

Juliana Spicoluk:

passed since we've even connected. But because we follow

Juliana Spicoluk:

each other, and you kind of stay up to date, of like, what all of

Juliana Spicoluk:

us are up to, you don't feel as much of a a disconnection. Or

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, Oh, my God, two years, you know what else happened? It's

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, I kind of feel like I have an idea, like, I know you've

Juliana Spicoluk:

been in Africa, I know you've been in Kenya. Like, I, you know

Juliana Spicoluk:

what? I mean, you're in Greece, you're doing your thing, your

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful retreats, all of the stuff. It's like, I, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

obviously not to the depth of what social media doesn't show

Juliana Spicoluk:

but it's still a wonderful thing that through this digital world,

Juliana Spicoluk:

we don't feel as disconnected as we would have otherwise.

Kate Harlow:

So true. I feel like that is, yeah, I mean, with

Kate Harlow:

everything, there's there's gifts, and there's shadow sides

Kate Harlow:

to everything. Um, yes, yes, yeah, that's totally the gift of

Kate Harlow:

of social media. I love that. I love meeting. I imagine you

Kate Harlow:

might feel similar, but I based on traveling so much and doing

Kate Harlow:

what I do and being who I am, I meet people everywhere. And I

Kate Harlow:

love that ability to to meet people and have I think of all

Kate Harlow:

the people I met on the on the farm during. In those four

Kate Harlow:

months that I was there in Kenya, and how I get to stay

Kate Harlow:

connected to them, and what they're up to now. And it's

Kate Harlow:

yeah, these connections don't just fall to the white side

Kate Harlow:

because you see people's lives and their pictures and their

Kate Harlow:

videos. It feels Yeah, like you said, like you're really still

Kate Harlow:

plugged in. Yeah, yeah. You

Juliana Spicoluk:

still stay connected, in a sense, right?

Juliana Spicoluk:

Which is, which is really, really beautiful, and yeah, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

I continue to be inspired by each other as well. And I think

Juliana Spicoluk:

that's really cool, right? It's because, you know, we we get

Juliana Spicoluk:

drawn to certain people for specific reasons, not just that,

Juliana Spicoluk:

oh, you need somebody, but it's like, there's a reason you need

Juliana Spicoluk:

somebody. And then you click, and then you feel your energy,

Juliana Spicoluk:

kind of vibe with each other, where you want to continue that

Juliana Spicoluk:

connection and relationship and friendship, right? And there,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, through those reasons, whether that is inspiration or

Juliana Spicoluk:

admiration, whatever it is, we continue to have that energy as

Juliana Spicoluk:

we continue to follow them through social media and choose

Juliana Spicoluk:

to, you know, to stay connected in that way. So

Kate Harlow:

that's beautiful. Yeah. Choose the social media.

Kate Harlow:

We do love a little part of you. I, as you were talking, I'm

Kate Harlow:

like, Oh my gosh, I just pictured what's what was that

Kate Harlow:

restaurant? I went there all the time, but I can't remember

Kate Harlow:

what's called. Where we met the first night in, oh yeah.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Love burger.

Kate Harlow:

Yeah, love burger. Oh my gosh, that night, and

Kate Harlow:

then, and then I remember walking on the seawall in

Kate Harlow:

Vancouver, in Yaletown with you, and Mark, yeah, because we

Juliana Spicoluk:

were visiting for like two days, my friend's

Juliana Spicoluk:

wedding was happening, and that was when Xavier was still little

Juliana Spicoluk:

young. He was only, like, was it seven months old or something?

Juliana Spicoluk:

So that was like, three and a half years ago now, which is,

Juliana Spicoluk:

but, yeah, I know it's crazy. It's crazy how much life has

Juliana Spicoluk:

moved and shifted, in a way, since we lost each other.

Kate Harlow:

It's beautiful. Well, I feel like we're both

Kate Harlow:

modeling this, living an unscripted life so well. And I I

Kate Harlow:

feel like, I mean, just astrologically speaking, moving

Kate Harlow:

into the Aquarian Age versus Capricorn is so aligned to to

Kate Harlow:

because it's like the breakdown of all the old systems. For

Kate Harlow:

those of you who don't know astrology, but I'm sure I've I'm

Kate Harlow:

not an astrologer, but I've mentioned it before, breakdown

Kate Harlow:

of old systems, and also this like collaborative community,

Kate Harlow:

new new paradigms, new ways of being, new ways of thinking,

Kate Harlow:

big, dreaming, big energy that comes with the Aquarian Age that

Kate Harlow:

we're in now. And so, yeah, I'm so excited. The reason we we

Kate Harlow:

came up with this, this title, and this topic is just you and I

Kate Harlow:

were just catching up and just to catch everyone else up. And

Kate Harlow:

we were like, oh my god, this is the topic that we need to talk

Kate Harlow:

about today. Is unscripted life. Because, like you said earlier,

Kate Harlow:

so many people desire it right now, and so many people are

Kate Harlow:

feeling, I know a lot of my clients, are saying, like, Oh,

Kate Harlow:

I'm fed up with America, I'm fed up with Canada, I'm fed up with

Kate Harlow:

wherever they live. And they're really ready to take the risk

Kate Harlow:

and to but often they think, okay, it's just you that has a

Kate Harlow:

magical life, like, I could never do that, and I have kids,

Kate Harlow:

or I have a partner, or I have and so if it's so great to have

Kate Harlow:

you here to represent you know, someone who has an amazing

Kate Harlow:

relationship and two beautiful children, and that you're also

Kate Harlow:

living this really unscripted, following your hearts, following

Kate Harlow:

your truths life. So do you want to tell us a little bit about

Kate Harlow:

it. Share a little bit about your story.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Yeah, gosh. Where do I begin? I mean, I

Juliana Spicoluk:

think just to speak to what you're saying, you know, you're

Juliana Spicoluk:

saying astrologically, like, there we're going through this

Juliana Spicoluk:

different shift in time. And even, you know, you're looking

Juliana Spicoluk:

at it from the yogic perspective, you know that they

Juliana Spicoluk:

talk about, like we're just coming to the end of Kali Yuga,

Juliana Spicoluk:

right? And Kali Yuga, which is kind of that unsettling era of

Juliana Spicoluk:

war and hardship and difficulty. And I feel like I feel it, and I

Juliana Spicoluk:

see it now that we're transitioning into this new

Juliana Spicoluk:

stage, because there's this slight, like, almost Mass

Juliana Spicoluk:

Awakening that's happening. And that's happening not only from

Juliana Spicoluk:

people starting to get a little bit more curious about

Juliana Spicoluk:

spirituality, wellness, well being. You know, you just see

Juliana Spicoluk:

the new things kind of starting to become more mainstream, but

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's also people waking up to this idea, like they're saying

Juliana Spicoluk:

that they don't want to continue to live the life they've lived

Juliana Spicoluk:

for their whole since, since they were born, or since they've

Juliana Spicoluk:

been kind of told this is the way you're supposed to do it.

Juliana Spicoluk:

You're supposed to go to school, get a degree, go to university,

Juliana Spicoluk:

get married, have children, have a home, have a mortgage, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

there's like, this thing you have to do. And as soon as you

Juliana Spicoluk:

wake up and decide that this doesn't feel right for me, I

Juliana Spicoluk:

don't want this. I want something else. I want to feel

Juliana Spicoluk:

and experience my life in a completely different way from

Juliana Spicoluk:

what I've been told then. At times, society can label you as

Juliana Spicoluk:

crazy or, well, you're just That's insane. How could you do

Juliana Spicoluk:

that? Like you're saying you have kids, you have

Juliana Spicoluk:

responsibilities, you have all of these things like, how could

Juliana Spicoluk:

you just pick up your life and move somewhere else, but to. Me,

Juliana Spicoluk:

I think if we can step away from this old construct that I feel

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, planetarily, spiritually, collective consciousness right

Juliana Spicoluk:

now is starting to shift from and realize that we don't need

Juliana Spicoluk:

to live that way anymore, and that we can create a new world

Juliana Spicoluk:

for ourselves, for our own families. And that starts with,

Juliana Spicoluk:

one, is it just a decision as to decide, no, I want a different

Juliana Spicoluk:

life. And two, is looking at what you have to offer in the

Juliana Spicoluk:

world and how, especially in this, as we talked about digital

Juliana Spicoluk:

world that we live in now, there's so many more

Juliana Spicoluk:

possibilities of making an income, of sustaining yourself

Juliana Spicoluk:

or just creating a different life than, let's say, even our

Juliana Spicoluk:

parents might have had, you know, 40 years ago, 50 years

Juliana Spicoluk:

ago, and so you know, to talk about our story, I mean for

Juliana Spicoluk:

myself and and my family and everything it really be. We were

Juliana Spicoluk:

really gifted. Because we're mostly gifted. We were blessed

Juliana Spicoluk:

in a way, because when we started Bova beautiful, and we

Juliana Spicoluk:

have an online digital wellness brand, you know, we started when

Juliana Spicoluk:

it was just the beginning. At that time, it was like two, 2016

Juliana Spicoluk:

like YouTube was just starting to kind of yeah happen. And, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, we had the desire that we wanted to create a different

Juliana Spicoluk:

life for ourselves. And we were living in Toronto at that time,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and I felt like I was physically being suffocated by that life,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, working two jobs. I didn't have children, I had a

Juliana Spicoluk:

dog and Mark and, you know, we had a home and everything. But I

Juliana Spicoluk:

felt myself like I was drowning, like it was just I wasn't

Juliana Spicoluk:

feeling fulfilled, I wasn't feeling like I was growing.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Things were starting to not align anymore, like I, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

I remember having to have a second job, and I was a

Juliana Spicoluk:

bartender at, like a bar, and just feeling this resistance

Juliana Spicoluk:

every time I had to even go into that space, because I'm like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

this isn't meaning, or I didn't align with what I want to do and

Juliana Spicoluk:

how I want to live my life. And I remember it just became a

Juliana Spicoluk:

choice after that with Mark, because Mark was feeling

Juliana Spicoluk:

similarly in his own ways. And I'm like, Well, look, we want to

Juliana Spicoluk:

see the world, we want to travel, we want to experience

Juliana Spicoluk:

life in a new way. And so let's find a way for ourselves. And at

Juliana Spicoluk:

that point, you know, for us, the ideas came through, creating

Juliana Spicoluk:

content online. So, you know, as a yoga teacher and doing Pilates

Juliana Spicoluk:

and that that was my passion, really. And so it was just, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, I've had so many requests of my students asking if I offer

Juliana Spicoluk:

anything online. This is back in the day when there wasn't as

Juliana Spicoluk:

much online things, yeah. And I was like, let's just, like, buy

Juliana Spicoluk:

a camera and just start creating something. And so we did, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, we just started shooting in, like, Mark's office at that

Juliana Spicoluk:

time, and, like, behind a white wall. And then we started to

Juliana Spicoluk:

travel and then start incorporating, like, anytime you

Juliana Spicoluk:

would go, let's just say we went to Thailand and like, okay,

Juliana Spicoluk:

we're in Thailand for one week. You know, it wasn't like we

Juliana Spicoluk:

could travel for a month, and then we just went for one week.

Juliana Spicoluk:

And then we would, you know, take that camera and start

Juliana Spicoluk:

creating little videos on the beach and and doing yoga classes

Juliana Spicoluk:

and giving that opportunity for people to experience the the

Juliana Spicoluk:

cultures and the different ways of life that we were

Juliana Spicoluk:

experiencing through our travels, and so as a backstory

Juliana Spicoluk:

that's, you know, a short way, because it's definitely a longer

Juliana Spicoluk:

story than what I'm saying. But one thing led to another, that

Juliana Spicoluk:

we were then able to create a business, an online business,

Juliana Spicoluk:

that allowed us that opportunity, to be able to leave

Juliana Spicoluk:

the city to not be beholden to a job, physically in one space,

Juliana Spicoluk:

that our job then and our passion and we felt like our

Juliana Spicoluk:

service to the world was able to sustain us to be able to travel

Juliana Spicoluk:

and start to experience life, which then opens your eyes even

Juliana Spicoluk:

more to understanding like, Wow, there's So much to this

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful world where living in this one city and city that you

Juliana Spicoluk:

felt like deep down, the suffocating you is not the way

Juliana Spicoluk:

life is too short to allow yourself to live that way, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know. And yeah. And so for us, you know, our business done well

Juliana Spicoluk:

that we've been able to continue that lifestyle. And then now we

Juliana Spicoluk:

have two children, four year olds and a 10 month old. And,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, we lived in Costa Rica for a long period of time,

Juliana Spicoluk:

thinking that that was going to be a place where we want to

Juliana Spicoluk:

raise our children and kind of call home, because in the remote

Juliana Spicoluk:

town, a yoga town, you know, there's nature, it was very much

Juliana Spicoluk:

removed from the typical kind of cultural society that, let's

Juliana Spicoluk:

say, big cities in Canada at that time are are, but that also

Juliana Spicoluk:

shifted, and that also changed. And then, you know, as

Juliana Spicoluk:

everything in life, it ebbs and flows, and that energy didn't

Juliana Spicoluk:

align with us anymore. There's certain things that made us not

Juliana Spicoluk:

feel safe raising our family anymore in that town. And then

Juliana Spicoluk:

somehow, again, we surrendered to took away life was guiding

Juliana Spicoluk:

us, and somehow Barbados, out of all places, never expected

Juliana Spicoluk:

Barbados to be a place we would call home, but being one thing

Juliana Spicoluk:

after the other just aligned. And we arrived here, and then we

Juliana Spicoluk:

started meeting different, like minded families and. You know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

other families of small children. So, like our children

Juliana Spicoluk:

can become have, can start to create, like a community for

Juliana Spicoluk:

themselves. And it's really, really beautiful on this island.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Is amazing to raise children because, like, it's safe, it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful in terms of the nature the water so calm they can, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, examine like such a swimmer now, and love the ocean.

Juliana Spicoluk:

You go snorkel with the turtles here, and it's just, it's a

Juliana Spicoluk:

different, a different lifestyle, you know, and now

Juliana Spicoluk:

that we're here, it's, I feel very, very blessed that we're

Juliana Spicoluk:

able to, you know, create this life for our kids. And it just

Juliana Spicoluk:

started from us making that one decision, to put ourselves out

Juliana Spicoluk:

there, out in the world, you know, start creating content and

Juliana Spicoluk:

sharing it with the world, not knowing if it would connect or

Juliana Spicoluk:

not, because you really don't know. You know first time you

Juliana Spicoluk:

post that video,

Kate Harlow:

and I can already hear like when you first I mean,

Kate Harlow:

thank you so much for sharing that beautiful and I know

Kate Harlow:

there's so many nuances to your story and but I just like as you

Kate Harlow:

started, I thought, Wow, what a great way suffocating like that

Kate Harlow:

is what it feels like when you're going against your own

Kate Harlow:

truth. It's either you have like, insane anxiety that wakes

Kate Harlow:

you up every night, that was me back in the day, like I'd wake

Kate Harlow:

up in the night, like freaking out with anxiety, and it's

Kate Harlow:

because I was lying to myself, or feeling suffocated every time

Kate Harlow:

you go into the place that's so that you've outgrown. Really,

Kate Harlow:

it's just part of yourself that you're ready to to let go of so

Kate Harlow:

the new parts can be born that relevant. I feel like so because

Kate Harlow:

we have to be we have to be willing to let the old self die

Kate Harlow:

so we can be reborn over and over again.

Juliana Spicoluk:

100% especially I find as a woman,

Juliana Spicoluk:

there's we go through so many chapters of death and rebirth,

Juliana Spicoluk:

yes, and you know, you look at it one way, like, as a mother, I

Juliana Spicoluk:

feel like I've died twice and birthed myself two times because

Juliana Spicoluk:

I've had two children, but outside of even just being a

Juliana Spicoluk:

mother, like there's chapters in our life, like, you know, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

were speaking earlier, like you feel like you've outgrown a

Juliana Spicoluk:

relationship where you don't feel like you're able to evolve

Juliana Spicoluk:

anymore with this person, and it's not anything against them,

Juliana Spicoluk:

but it's like, yes, this beautiful, deep connection that

Juliana Spicoluk:

you have within yourself with your own truth, knowing that

Juliana Spicoluk:

like this isn't allowing me to feel that expansion that I need

Juliana Spicoluk:

to continue within my evolution on this earth. Because really, I

Juliana Spicoluk:

all of us like we're we're souls in these physical forms and

Juliana Spicoluk:

physical bodies, and we're here to expand and to learn and to

Juliana Spicoluk:

grow. And all of the relationships and circumstances

Juliana Spicoluk:

and things that life in universe brings our way is for that

Juliana Spicoluk:

growth. And so I find if we're not honoring that growth, if

Juliana Spicoluk:

we're not listening to it and and keeping ourselves stagnant,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you're we're doing more harm, not just spiritually, but also

Juliana Spicoluk:

physically too. Like you hear people start to get sick, or

Juliana Spicoluk:

they start to feel like this, ailments like or worse. Even you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, sicknesses, cancer, things can arise, and it's because

Juliana Spicoluk:

they're just emotionally unable to allow themselves to grow to

Juliana Spicoluk:

release, to let go, to let go exactly, to kill a part of them

Juliana Spicoluk:

so that a new part of them can be reborn. Yeah, exactly. And

Kate Harlow:

I think, like, whenever I'm working with women,

Kate Harlow:

and they're they're like, in the ping pong game, in their mind,

Kate Harlow:

should I stay or should I go? Should I, you know, whether it's

Kate Harlow:

staying in Canada and or going, which is where, yeah, we're

Kate Harlow:

living, or should I stay in this relationship or go, should I

Kate Harlow:

say? Which, if we're in our mind, it's just going to play

Kate Harlow:

both sides of the the game. It's a ping pong game. It's never

Kate Harlow:

going to stop. And then we ask a million people, and then we get

Kate Harlow:

all confused and muddled. But whenever I ask a woman to close

Kate Harlow:

her eyes and connect with her heart, the truth is, always

Kate Harlow:

there, always It's wild. It's even if she's in agony for

Kate Harlow:

months and months, it's clear when she closes her eyes and

Kate Harlow:

when she opens them, she might not allow herself to follow it,

Kate Harlow:

but this is so important, I think, like, who would you be,

Kate Harlow:

and what would your life be if you hadn't had the courage? And

Kate Harlow:

I could also hear people's minds or saboteur in my words, ego

Kate Harlow:

mind, saying things like, oh well, Juliana could do it and

Kate Harlow:

mark because they got in early YouTube, they got in early so

Kate Harlow:

they created a successful business because of that. But

Kate Harlow:

then people now will say, Yeah, or it's, it's too late to do it

Kate Harlow:

now. But that's not true. The different what you did, it was

Kate Harlow:

actually more risky to do it back then. Right now, we have so

Kate Harlow:

much evidence and information that you can create success

Kate Harlow:

online, the key real success where it's aligned with your

Kate Harlow:

heart and your vibration, that's when we really make an impact,

Kate Harlow:

not just monetary success, but actual like fulfillment in what

Kate Harlow:

you do, and being satiated by your work and your purpose is

Kate Harlow:

Like actually listening to that heart, whether it's moving

Kate Harlow:

somewhere or saying yes to a new path or whatever, whatever the

Kate Harlow:

thing may be, you cannot lose when you're following your heart

Kate Harlow:

like it's going to lead you. It's not a linear path. It's not

Kate Harlow:

going to happen overnight, but it's going to lead you in the

Kate Harlow:

right direction, even if it's the opposite of what your mind

Kate Harlow:

thinks. Is the direction is going to be 100%

Juliana Spicoluk:

and, you know, just to comment what you're

Juliana Spicoluk:

saying, like, yes, for us, this was the path for us. And we

Juliana Spicoluk:

were, say, lucky, in a sense, at that point, that we were early,

Juliana Spicoluk:

but we continue to do our business. And it's not getting

Juliana Spicoluk:

any easier. Like you're in this huge sea of competition, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

there's 1000s of yoga apps and 1000s of wellness things

Juliana Spicoluk:

happening, and everyone's got something to sell, and everybody

Juliana Spicoluk:

got something to offer. But I think also, when you look at it

Juliana Spicoluk:

that way, like everyone's doing it because they can. And if it

Juliana Spicoluk:

is your passion, and if this is something that you feel called

Juliana Spicoluk:

to, because, you know, it should be something that you feel like

Juliana Spicoluk:

I'm at service to, because it has to fulfill you, not just

Juliana Spicoluk:

because, well, this is the one way to do make money, then I'm

Juliana Spicoluk:

going to follow it. It's like, if you're following just the

Juliana Spicoluk:

monetary aspect, then, you know, I don't think it's going to be

Juliana Spicoluk:

as fulfilling as you expect. But if you truly, like you said,

Juliana Spicoluk:

like close your eyes and connect and and see, what is it that you

Juliana Spicoluk:

connect to? What is it that really makes you feel alive?

Juliana Spicoluk:

Whether that is a service or maybe that is art, maybe that

Juliana Spicoluk:

is, you know, you you see people like selling little things on

Juliana Spicoluk:

Etsy and make a business out of it. Do you know what I mean?

Juliana Spicoluk:

Like, there is so many opportunities right now,

Juliana Spicoluk:

especially as we were saying in this digital world that we live

Juliana Spicoluk:

this is so different than what it was even 20 years ago, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

you are able to create a business out of anything. And if

Juliana Spicoluk:

that's you know that what you're looking for to have that safety

Juliana Spicoluk:

net. But even if it's not a business that you're making

Juliana Spicoluk:

online, you can always like, I see some people that just move

Juliana Spicoluk:

to Barbados, and they're like, I'm a yoga teacher. I'm teaching

Juliana Spicoluk:

at a couple different studios here. Or, you know, they find

Juliana Spicoluk:

another like, there's always opportunities and other ways to

Juliana Spicoluk:

make an income and a life in a different environment. And it

Juliana Spicoluk:

doesn't have to be the place that makes you feel stuck or

Juliana Spicoluk:

suffocated. And I think when people can face that fear, to

Juliana Spicoluk:

even just travel and see what is out there in the world, and to

Juliana Spicoluk:

meet like you're saying, you meet so many new people, and you

Juliana Spicoluk:

hear their stories, and you see people doing it in all their own

Juliana Spicoluk:

different ways, and there's no there's no box to follow, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

you can create whatever you want. You know you can really

Juliana Spicoluk:

you're the master of your own life. And if you meet different,

Juliana Spicoluk:

different people that do it a different way, like, it's so

Juliana Spicoluk:

inspiring to see that all you really need is courage, and all

Juliana Spicoluk:

you really need is the strength in your own heart to like, to

Juliana Spicoluk:

make that difficult choice. And the hardest choice is to leave

Juliana Spicoluk:

is the hardest choice is to make decision, the decision in your

Juliana Spicoluk:

heart, to choose to put your house for sale, or to break your

Juliana Spicoluk:

lease, or to sell your car and all the belongings, and just

Juliana Spicoluk:

pack your bags and just go and yes, you know, as I say these

Juliana Spicoluk:

things, sometimes you're like, Well, you know, single thing,

Juliana Spicoluk:

but I have kids, and they have, you know, a life and this. But

Juliana Spicoluk:

even just to give you an example, we had somebody that

Juliana Spicoluk:

worked for our company. He him and his family were living in

Juliana Spicoluk:

Toronto all their life. Never left. And, you know, for the

Juliana Spicoluk:

first six months he was working with us, he's constantly was

Juliana Spicoluk:

just, you know, personally, sharing with Mark like them as a

Juliana Spicoluk:

family, just feeling really stuck. And again, that that

Juliana Spicoluk:

feeling like suffocating, we need to change, but we don't

Juliana Spicoluk:

know how they have, like, two kids that are, you know, 10 and

Juliana Spicoluk:

seven, and the wife has, she's a lawyer at a, like, a corporate

Juliana Spicoluk:

office in Toronto. Like, there's so many things that keeping them

Juliana Spicoluk:

grounded. And I remember with Mark, I was like, Look, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

don't have to make the biggest decision of your life and sell

Juliana Spicoluk:

everything. Go like, here in Barbados, they have a welcome

Juliana Spicoluk:

stamp visa, so they give you an opportunity to go for one year.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Like, put your rent your house well, because you have worked

Juliana Spicoluk:

for us. So we're like, move here. We're living here now as

Juliana Spicoluk:

well. Move your family here. Put your kids in a school for one

Juliana Spicoluk:

year in Barbados, you know, make the arrangements like you don't

Juliana Spicoluk:

have to completely destroy everything that you build in

Juliana Spicoluk:

your town, but just take a pause and go see and experience a

Juliana Spicoluk:

different way of living. And they did, and it was amazing,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, they it was so scary for them. They they packed a

Juliana Spicoluk:

bunch of stuff. They shipped it over here. The kids got into

Juliana Spicoluk:

school for the year. They had a beautiful school here that they

Juliana Spicoluk:

love. And even his wife is able to figure out a way with the

Juliana Spicoluk:

corporate job she was in to be able to work remotely. Because

Juliana Spicoluk:

since COVID, I think, like, people are a lot more open to

Juliana Spicoluk:

that now, like zoom and all these things, like, it's a lot

Juliana Spicoluk:

easier to do it than before, and they did, you know, and it was

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful, and they lived for a year, and they actually, I think

Juliana Spicoluk:

they're going back to Toronto because, you know, she's not

Juliana Spicoluk:

working for us anymore, just for the reasons, but whatever

Juliana Spicoluk:

circumstance that happened, the fact that they did it for a

Juliana Spicoluk:

year, and just to see them actually grow, and how much they

Juliana Spicoluk:

loved it and their children. And like the relationship they, they

Juliana Spicoluk:

they made, and like just how much more connected with nature

Juliana Spicoluk:

they started to become, to a point where they were like, Oh

Juliana Spicoluk:

well, you know, we don't even want to go back to Canada

Juliana Spicoluk:

anymore. Like they, they really loved it here, because of the,

Juliana Spicoluk:

obviously, the relationship. At the the working relationship

Juliana Spicoluk:

with us, they might go back to figure it out now, because it's,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, they obviously life changes. But the fact that I

Juliana Spicoluk:

don't know where they'll go next, maybe they'll move to a

Juliana Spicoluk:

different country. They're talking about maybe going to

Juliana Spicoluk:

California now, but you know, just that one first step for

Juliana Spicoluk:

them, for a family that you would say were so tied with so

Juliana Spicoluk:

many different ways they did it, and it was really inspiring. And

Juliana Spicoluk:

I was so proud of them, because I'm like, Wow, that's amazing.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Guys like you, as scary as it is, it's so possible and it is,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and you learn and you experience and what's the worst thing that

Juliana Spicoluk:

happens if you go back your house is back. They know what I

Juliana Spicoluk:

mean, but the richness that you receive from living in a

Juliana Spicoluk:

different country, your children being exposed to different

Juliana Spicoluk:

cultures, to different people. It Like It's there's no price

Juliana Spicoluk:

tag on that, like it is the most enriching thing you can offer

Juliana Spicoluk:

for yourself or for your family. And even if it's temporary, it

Juliana Spicoluk:

doesn't have to be a forever, you know. But I think life is so

Juliana Spicoluk:

short that to not give ourselves the opportunity to just live and

Juliana Spicoluk:

experience it, even for a short moment. It's so crucial,

Kate Harlow:

and you never know where to lead. Like you never

Kate Harlow:

know on that experience if you're going to meet what new,

Kate Harlow:

new possibilities will come your way that you couldn't see

Kate Harlow:

before. Like I think of how many things in my life are my lived

Kate Harlow:

reality now, and what I'm even moving into that I didn't even

Kate Harlow:

know I wanted before. We often so many women when there's first

Kate Harlow:

trying to figure out what they desire or what they're you know,

Kate Harlow:

what is their big, juicy Kate or Juliana style, like unscripted

Kate Harlow:

life? What does theirs look like, and their mind might be

Kate Harlow:

able to try and imagine? But it there's so much ahead of us when

Kate Harlow:

we're not learning the script and we're not following the x,

Kate Harlow:

y, z, check the boxes, live your life in this tiny box, and

Kate Harlow:

follow the rules and stay where you were born and don't go

Kate Harlow:

anywhere and don't do anything, and and when you're not high on

Kate Harlow:

drugs the whole time or numb on drugs because you can't, you

Kate Harlow:

don't want to feel any of it like when you're not living that

Kate Harlow:

life anymore and You're no longer willing to suffocate

Kate Harlow:

yourself. You actually don't need to know where you're going.

Kate Harlow:

You can have ideas. My client told me the other day, this is

Kate Harlow:

so cool. I recorded my online course that that all my clients

Kate Harlow:

go through. I called the reclamation. I did it in 2020

Kate Harlow:

from Vancouver for my place in Vancouver. And I say she shared

Kate Harlow:

with me that I say in the video, one day I'm gonna live in

Kate Harlow:

Europe, like maybe Italy, or somewhere in the Mediterranean.

Kate Harlow:

I didn't know I was moving to Greece. Wow. He said that five

Kate Harlow:

years ago. You just don't know. You really don't desires and

Kate Harlow:

manifesto level, yes, yeah, exactly. And on some soul level,

Kate Harlow:

I did know, maybe, but I didn't even when I moved here, it was

Kate Harlow:

on a whim, like it was because of COVID airplane. Remember that

Kate Harlow:

story? I remember, yeah, yeah. It was on a whim. So it's not

Kate Harlow:

it. You don't have, like, we've been so programmed to believe we

Kate Harlow:

have to plan our futures. You don't know your future self. All

Kate Harlow:

you need to do, like you said, like your that beautiful story

Kate Harlow:

you just shared is just like, what's your heart and soul

Kate Harlow:

calling right now? What's like knocking at your door over and

Kate Harlow:

over and over again right now? And to just follow that thread

Kate Harlow:

and take one step, you know, to even go somewhere for a month.

Kate Harlow:

So many people say to me, I want to live in Europe one day. Okay,

Kate Harlow:

come to Europe. Come for three months. Because you can't, you

Kate Harlow:

know you can stay in here without a visa for three months,

Kate Harlow:

but so many countries have digital nomad visas now, like,

Kate Harlow:

if you have a desire, just take one step towards it, because

Kate Harlow:

it's going to lead you. There's going to be so much more that

Kate Harlow:

you don't even know your desire that will open up. And I'm sure

Kate Harlow:

you have a million stories like that too. 100%

Juliana Spicoluk:

No, and that's exactly what you're saying. It's

Juliana Spicoluk:

taking that first step without feeling like you have to make

Juliana Spicoluk:

the biggest commitment of your life and sell everything. And

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know what I mean? Because, yeah, you have no idea what even

Juliana Spicoluk:

the experience is like. If you've never been to Europe, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

you want to know what it's like to live in Europe, go live for

Juliana Spicoluk:

two months, like you're saying, because living and visiting a

Juliana Spicoluk:

place is so different, right? It's like, it's nice. You go on

Juliana Spicoluk:

a vacation for a week. You're like, this is perfect, amazing.

Juliana Spicoluk:

You try living there for some period of time, you may not feel

Juliana Spicoluk:

the same way again. And I think that experience right there is

Juliana Spicoluk:

important as well. And especially I also find, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, for anybody that feels that feeling inside, that kind

Juliana Spicoluk:

of ocean, like, this kind of suffocation, of like, oh, this

Juliana Spicoluk:

is not feeling right for me anymore. I want to change, but I

Juliana Spicoluk:

don't know where to start. I don't know where to go. I don't

Juliana Spicoluk:

know what are the right steps to take. I'm too afraid. There's

Juliana Spicoluk:

just too much on me is, you know, taking, let's just say, a

Juliana Spicoluk:

retreat, you know, not like a vacation, but a retreat to go,

Juliana Spicoluk:

maybe like, you know, you offer some beautiful retreats, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

with your your women's groups, or, you know, a yoga retreat, or

Juliana Spicoluk:

whatever it is. I mean, right now the world is filled with so

Juliana Spicoluk:

many opportunities, but just being able to remove yourself to

Juliana Spicoluk:

a new environment, to a new culture for a couple weeks to a

Juliana Spicoluk:

month, and really allow yourself to deprogram yourself from

Juliana Spicoluk:

living in a specific way that certain places in the world,

Juliana Spicoluk:

especially big. Cities and, you know, the Western I find also

Juliana Spicoluk:

mentality kind of brainwashes us with and living in a completely

Juliana Spicoluk:

different environment, with new people and being inspired by

Juliana Spicoluk:

other people that could be that first step, because then you

Juliana Spicoluk:

come back and you're like, wow, and then you feel like the

Juliana Spicoluk:

difference now, and this happened actually, to mark and

Juliana Spicoluk:

I, before we even decided to do our big, big shift and change in

Juliana Spicoluk:

our life, we used to travel to Costa Rica almost couple times a

Juliana Spicoluk:

year, and we would just go for a couple weeks, maybe a month,

Juliana Spicoluk:

maybe because that was much time as we could take off from all

Juliana Spicoluk:

the obligations we had in the city at the time. But I remember

Juliana Spicoluk:

every time I would go, I would come back to Toronto, and I

Juliana Spicoluk:

would literally cry. I would be at the airport, and I would be

Juliana Spicoluk:

crying because I just felt like my body, physically was I don't

Juliana Spicoluk:

want to be here anymore. I don't want to be there anymore, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

this isn't aligning. And the more I traveled outside, the

Juliana Spicoluk:

stronger that feeling became every time I would return, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

that was the biggest sign. I was like, Okay, this isn't just me

Juliana Spicoluk:

wanting a change. This is literally my body, physically

Juliana Spicoluk:

resisting to the energy that this place is about. And right

Juliana Spicoluk:

there that was enough to be like, yeah, that's it. Whatever

Juliana Spicoluk:

I have to do, I have to figure it out. And it doesn't have to

Juliana Spicoluk:

be, you know, like whether even I remember him in Mark, and I

Juliana Spicoluk:

was like, I'm just gonna move to coast. Gonna move to Costa Rica,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and I'll set up an ice cream shack, and I'll just sell ice

Juliana Spicoluk:

cream on the beach. Like, I don't know, do whatever we need

Juliana Spicoluk:

to do, you know, to figure out financially that you can at

Juliana Spicoluk:

least sustain yourself to a degree. But it's like, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

like I said, again, it's, it's life is, is just too fragile and

Juliana Spicoluk:

too short to not live, not in our truth, you know, and to

Juliana Spicoluk:

continue to suppress that truth that we feel in our heart is

Juliana Spicoluk:

only going to bite us in the ass, pretty much, because, yeah,

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's going to come out one way or another. You know, there is a

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful book I was reading, the gabriate, and, you know, he

Juliana Spicoluk:

talks about like, in terms of just the idea of trauma, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

certain psychological traumas that we go through in our life,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and when we don't find a way to release that energy or to to

Juliana Spicoluk:

feel the wounds and to work through them, they physically

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, they make you ill, like all of the sicknesses and and

Juliana Spicoluk:

diseases that arise a lot of the times where the root, the root

Juliana Spicoluk:

was something psychological or something like that, we weren't

Juliana Spicoluk:

connected. We weren't living our truth. We were suppressing,

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, even suppressing now, there's, like, all these

Juliana Spicoluk:

scientific studies talking about, like, especially in

Juliana Spicoluk:

women, like, what women that were suppressing, like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

vocalizing what they want and what they need, and how that was

Juliana Spicoluk:

actually coming into, like, certain different ovarian

Juliana Spicoluk:

cancers and different again, I don't have the stats in front of

Juliana Spicoluk:

me to fully speak to it scientifically. But like, if you

Juliana Spicoluk:

go deep into that research and see it's like, when we're not

Juliana Spicoluk:

able to live within our truth and to speak about it, we just

Juliana Spicoluk:

keep suppressing it and pushing it down. The body will will

Juliana Spicoluk:

revolt in one way. You know,

Kate Harlow:

it just, it's so beautiful. Because ever I love

Kate Harlow:

everything you just said, your body's never gonna stop talking

Kate Harlow:

to you and like, what a gift. I did an episode recently about

Kate Harlow:

how anxiety is a gift, because it's just like an out of tune

Kate Harlow:

guitar when your body's telling you to go one way, but your

Kate Harlow:

mind, AKA your soul, right? Your Heart and Soul want to go one

Kate Harlow:

way, and that's your truth, and then your mind always tells you

Kate Harlow:

to go the opposite, because it thinks, oh no, that expansive

Kate Harlow:

way is unsafe, so it creates this distortion and discord in

Kate Harlow:

the body, just like all the ailments, just like depression,

Kate Harlow:

like when you went repression, it's like everything's getting

Kate Harlow:

pushed down. So of course, you feel depressed because you're

Kate Harlow:

repressing absolutely everything, desires, your truth,

Kate Harlow:

your feelings, your your intuition, everything, but the

Kate Harlow:

more we can and that's why I love like, even just something

Kate Harlow:

as simple as yoga. So for someone who's like, really in

Kate Harlow:

your head, find a good yoga teacher who's really connected

Kate Harlow:

like you and you do Juliana's yoga on you guys have an app

Kate Harlow:

now, don't you? Yeah, we have a

Juliana Spicoluk:

full out app with hundreds and 1000s of

Juliana Spicoluk:

classes, and we actually started putting in different teachers

Juliana Spicoluk:

onto our app as well. Um, it's everything, not just yoga, but

Juliana Spicoluk:

we, you know, we have meditation, we have yoga,

Juliana Spicoluk:

nidras, we have breath work. We have so many different

Juliana Spicoluk:

modalities to help people come into their body and connect

Juliana Spicoluk:

deeper with their hearts, to again, to deepen that that

Juliana Spicoluk:

relationship. Because you know something also to comment when

Juliana Spicoluk:

you're saying about depression, and something I've realized

Juliana Spicoluk:

seeing just kind of how our Western society deals with these

Juliana Spicoluk:

mental ailments like depression, it's like, okay, you feel

Juliana Spicoluk:

depressed. Well, what do they do? They give you a bunch of

Juliana Spicoluk:

pills to numb yourself with. And I understand sometimes it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

very, very necessary. I can't comment that it's wrong, but I

Juliana Spicoluk:

think a lot of the times, like, they don't take the time to get

Juliana Spicoluk:

to the root of what is causing this person to feel depressed.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Why are they feeling unaligned? Like, maybe blah. Before we

Juliana Spicoluk:

start just throwing a bunch of chemicals at people that is

Juliana Spicoluk:

actually going to give them worse and give them side effects

Juliana Spicoluk:

and just put them in this terrible cycle, it's like, why

Juliana Spicoluk:

don't we address the root of it? And again, let's connect to the

Juliana Spicoluk:

body. Let's connect to the heart. What are we eating? What

Juliana Spicoluk:

are we drinking? What are we surrounding ourselves with? What

Juliana Spicoluk:

are the people in your life? How are you spending your time? What

Juliana Spicoluk:

kind of news or media are you consuming that is causing, like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

everything has an effect on our mind, our body and our heart.

Juliana Spicoluk:

And before we just jump into, you know, prescription, it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, Well, why don't we heal? Try the natural healing first,

Juliana Spicoluk:

see if that helps, you know. And I feel like if we were to

Juliana Spicoluk:

address those issues. In this perspective, I think there will

Juliana Spicoluk:

be a lot different outcomes for many people out there that

Juliana Spicoluk:

suffer with these type of mental ailments, such as depression.

Kate Harlow:

A lot of my clients is when I start working with me,

Kate Harlow:

they have they they're on medication because it's so

Kate Harlow:

common in North America, because everyone's just in the soup,

Kate Harlow:

right in the stress, functioning in the keeping their calendar so

Kate Harlow:

busy there's no spaciousness and and after a few months, and

Kate Harlow:

without even sharing with me, often, they just tell me after I

Kate Harlow:

don't even know they're on, and it's not something I talk about,

Kate Harlow:

I don't ask people, but unless I feel that they're very numb, and

Kate Harlow:

then I'll ask, but it just happens naturally, where they

Kate Harlow:

eventually are like, Oh, I don't need this anymore. And then it's

Kate Harlow:

because they're alive again, because they're following their

Kate Harlow:

truth. And I think you're I just feel like you're at your energy.

Kate Harlow:

You're one of the most this is why I love you so much, and I

Kate Harlow:

feel so aligned with you, and did the moment I met you. As I

Kate Harlow:

feel like you're so embodied in in everything that you believe,

Kate Harlow:

and your your energy, it just feels so consistent, and it's

Kate Harlow:

like it's so pure, because you you do have such a clean life.

Kate Harlow:

You're so connected to nature. You eat really clean. You're

Kate Harlow:

very intentional with every with with so many facets of your

Kate Harlow:

life. And so to learn from a teacher like that, I think of

Kate Harlow:

all the movies that have been out there over the years, of

Kate Harlow:

like the therapist who's actually a raging alcoholic

Kate Harlow:

behind the scenes by thread, versus like someone who's

Kate Harlow:

actually deeply embodied in the thing. Because when you're doing

Kate Harlow:

your classes, it's not just the class, it's the frequency that

Kate Harlow:

you're emitting, even through this conversation. So I think

Kate Harlow:

like the app is the best place to start, because people can put

Kate Harlow:

it on their phones, their computers. Goes with you.

Kate Harlow:

Everywhere you go, carve out that space every morning, spend,

Kate Harlow:

you know, 30 minutes or an hour on your app, or even 10 minutes,

Kate Harlow:

whatever, doing something for yourself to connect with your

Kate Harlow:

body, like I said. Not you everyone listening, obviously,

Kate Harlow:

but like, like, I like, I said before, it's like that you as

Kate Harlow:

soon as you close your eyes and connect your truth is right

Kate Harlow:

there. It's just, it's just waiting for you don't need to

Kate Harlow:

know the 10 million steps you're going to take or how you're

Kate Harlow:

going to get there, but the desires and the the things that

Kate Harlow:

are no longer serving you and no longer a lot in alignment are

Kate Harlow:

right there, and all we have to do is get quiet.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Yeah, and that's the thing is, some people

Juliana Spicoluk:

sometimes look at the idea of, like, yoga and wellness, like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

oh, well, I just have, I don't have enough time in my day. But

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's like, you don't even need an hour. Like, I have two kids.

Juliana Spicoluk:

I can't tell you that I have an hour for myself. Sometimes all I

Juliana Spicoluk:

get is 1520 minutes, but I will find that time, and I'll just do

Juliana Spicoluk:

a very quick yoga practice, five minute breath. That's it. That's

Juliana Spicoluk:

all I got today. Maybe tomorrow I'll have a little bit more, but

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's really not in the quantity, but it's in the quality. And you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, in our app, we have everything from five minutes to

Juliana Spicoluk:

32 hour long practice, and really is up to the person to

Juliana Spicoluk:

decide what their life allows in that moment. But what it is,

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's it's just giving yourself an opportunity to connect to

Juliana Spicoluk:

your heart and to your soul, if not your head. That's always

Juliana Spicoluk:

racing 1000 miles an hour, but it's your heart, and it's to

Juliana Spicoluk:

quiet the mind for a moment, and that's where the truth really

Juliana Spicoluk:

can speak to and and I see it all the time, just even from

Juliana Spicoluk:

hearing people's stories, or from even seeing what I've

Juliana Spicoluk:

noticed as a teacher in a physical form, in a classes, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

give people opportunity to find that space inside their heart,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and they'll a lot of times have like an emotional release, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

you see them start to cry. You see people starting to to feel

Juliana Spicoluk:

something even in that short amount of time, and it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful, and it's something we should never suppress. Like, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, if you feel the urge to cry, when you find that

Juliana Spicoluk:

stillness silence, even if you go in nature, do it because it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

your nervous system that is regulating, that is your body

Juliana Spicoluk:

needing to release whatever energy, what is around and that

Juliana Spicoluk:

we're storing it. Because if you don't, like I said before this,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and it's energy can't be destroyed, right? Like it just

Juliana Spicoluk:

goes and you have to, you have to move it. And so if we're not

Juliana Spicoluk:

able to move it out of our heart space, out of our body, whether

Juliana Spicoluk:

that is, you know, anxiety, stress, all of those things, it

Juliana Spicoluk:

will find a home, and it will manifest itself in your body and

Juliana Spicoluk:

come out through back ache or pain. Pain or worse, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

some kind of illness. And so that self care is crucial, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

that is actually the first step before you do anything else or

Juliana Spicoluk:

change your life in any way. Is actually prioritize wherever you

Juliana Spicoluk:

live, 1520, half an hour a day to just whether it is yoga,

Juliana Spicoluk:

breath work, meditation or maybe a workout. Some people really

Juliana Spicoluk:

need to release that energy, or even sometimes, I say, just go

Juliana Spicoluk:

in nature. You don't have time. You have a dog. Go walk your dog

Juliana Spicoluk:

and connect, you know. And just like without your phone, yes,

Juliana Spicoluk:

exactly. Leave the phone behind, just for that half an hour.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Don't look at the email, don't check your text messages, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

just breathe and listen to the wind and feel the rays of the

Juliana Spicoluk:

sun on your skin, and just connect with that energy,

Juliana Spicoluk:

because it is around us, like divinity, like that. It's here,

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's it's inside of ourselves. It's everywhere. But we just we

Juliana Spicoluk:

disconnect from it because there's so much noise, like our

Juliana Spicoluk:

lives are so busy and they're and if we don't find to connect

Juliana Spicoluk:

to it. We just keep getting more and more dragged into the noise

Juliana Spicoluk:

and chaos of our of our life, and then you start to feel more

Juliana Spicoluk:

and more lost. And so I find that even that first step of

Juliana Spicoluk:

just finding daily ways to connect to your heart will start

Juliana Spicoluk:

to slowly build little, tiny, micro steps to a greater

Juliana Spicoluk:

understanding of what is it that you really want, and what is it

Juliana Spicoluk:

that you really need in your life and feel connected to, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

what is it that you need to let go of? And, yeah, more nourish

Juliana Spicoluk:

more. You know, because, like you said, like you work with a

Juliana Spicoluk:

lot of women that are like, should I stay? Should I go? Do I

Juliana Spicoluk:

feel? You know, what do I do, and especially at a specific

Juliana Spicoluk:

time in our lives and circumstances? You know, whether

Juliana Spicoluk:

that is for relationships or whatever it is, it's a really

Juliana Spicoluk:

difficult either question to start to ask yourself, like, do

Juliana Spicoluk:

I feel like I'm growing in this relationship? Do I feel like I

Juliana Spicoluk:

am really living my truth, or am I just reacting to what I'm

Juliana Spicoluk:

supposed to do? And you know that question itself can be even

Juliana Spicoluk:

a scary one that people avoid to ask because you're afraid of

Juliana Spicoluk:

what the answer would be. Because if some of that the

Juliana Spicoluk:

truth or the answer might come up, that may be a difficult one,

Juliana Spicoluk:

right? But, yeah, I think it's like I said before. It's, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, we need to always prioritize our own well being

Juliana Spicoluk:

and our growth, our soul evolution. That is really why

Juliana Spicoluk:

we're here on Earth. And unfortunately, you know, it does

Juliana Spicoluk:

require, sometimes asking the difficult questions and

Juliana Spicoluk:

connecting for ourselves, and prioritizing that connection,

Juliana Spicoluk:

even if we feel like we don't have the time for

Kate Harlow:

Yeah. Well, the beauty is it just like you get

Kate Harlow:

it just gets better, like life gets so much better and richer

Kate Harlow:

and more meaningful and more satiating, more fulfilling. When

Kate Harlow:

you do create that space and and and start to operate from your

Kate Harlow:

that soul, heart space, instead of the mind it so so you'll get

Kate Harlow:

you'll get to know that right now i It's so much easier for me

Kate Harlow:

to make big decisions and take risks and let things go, let

Kate Harlow:

relationships go, let apartments go, let places go, step into new

Kate Harlow:

possibilities. Because I know, even if that ends up being, like

Kate Harlow:

we talked about earlier, a stepping stone, I know it's a

Kate Harlow:

calling right now, and I know that it's just going to be even

Kate Harlow:

juicier, even better, like there's always more of ourselves

Kate Harlow:

to experience, and more of life to experience, and also just

Kate Harlow:

just thinking about how freaking cool it is the body's

Kate Harlow:

intelligence, like how amazing that we have this body that's

Kate Harlow:

always talking to us, and it never stops. Worst case

Kate Harlow:

scenario, and you get some crazy disease your body is you're on

Kate Harlow:

your side. And I think how many, how many women, especially, are

Kate Harlow:

at war with our bodies when our bodies just want to help us.

Kate Harlow:

They're literally our guides. Like, hey, no, don't go to don't

Kate Harlow:

walk in that room. Don't go on a date with that guy. Don't, you

Kate Harlow:

know, don't. Don't stay another day in this job that is

Kate Harlow:

suffocating you. Our bodies are so highly intelligent and

Kate Harlow:

connected to the to the bigger life that we're meant to

Kate Harlow:

experience, the more expanded life that we're meant to

Kate Harlow:

experience. So that's so cool.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Oh, it's, it's incredible, like the

Juliana Spicoluk:

intelligence of your body. It's, um, you know, for me, I the what

Juliana Spicoluk:

I really made me realize. I mean, obviously, I've read so

Juliana Spicoluk:

much of it in books. I actually there's another beautiful book

Juliana Spicoluk:

called Body Keeps the Score by another. I don't know if you've

Juliana Spicoluk:

heard of it. It's, it's quite an old book, but it talks about

Juliana Spicoluk:

how, like, our body literally Keeps the Score of like, every

Juliana Spicoluk:

traumatic experience, whether it's even traumatic or not,

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, whatever way you label that it, it's, it takes us for

Juliana Spicoluk:

and it's like we have to find ways to to work with the energy

Juliana Spicoluk:

to release it. But I was saying to go back to, you know, the

Juliana Spicoluk:

most transformative ways for me to realize the power of our

Juliana Spicoluk:

bodies is when I was, you know, giving birth. I had two natural

Juliana Spicoluk:

births with my kids, and to see, like, I can't even explain it,

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, how. How intelligent the female body is. It's like, it

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, you don't do anything. You're just, like, stepping

Juliana Spicoluk:

aside, and it like, knows, like a contraction and all the things

Juliana Spicoluk:

of like, it's literally bringing life into this world. And it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

doing it without your mind. It's doing it without your head, also

Kate Harlow:

making the baby. It's like, it's making body

Kate Harlow:

parts

Juliana Spicoluk:

growing, growing lungs, like you're,

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, literally, like having growing a nervous system right

Juliana Spicoluk:

in your belt, like in your uterus, like it's, it's really

Juliana Spicoluk:

freaking incredible. And we have to, I almost, like, remember

Juliana Spicoluk:

that whether you know women are our mothers or not, or they

Juliana Spicoluk:

choose to have children or not, it's like, you see that process

Juliana Spicoluk:

right there, of like bringing life into this world, the body

Juliana Spicoluk:

has been designed and programmed by not humans, divinity, by God,

Juliana Spicoluk:

by existence, to be able to have the strength and the

Juliana Spicoluk:

intelligence to create. Literally, it's a miracle, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

it bringing life into this world. And so like to know that.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Then we also have to remember that. Then it will signal and

Juliana Spicoluk:

tell you when something is not aligned anymore with with your

Juliana Spicoluk:

well being like it will speak to you. It's just really a matter

Juliana Spicoluk:

of fact, if you choose to listen to it, or you choose to put it

Juliana Spicoluk:

aside and ignore it, but over and over again, it will continue

Juliana Spicoluk:

to give you a little sign, and the signs will start to get

Juliana Spicoluk:

stronger, stronger the more you ignore them, right? It's like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

slowly it'll just be a tap on your shoulder, and then it'll be

Juliana Spicoluk:

a hit on the head, and it'll be a break on your head. You know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's like, it's good to keep trying to get your attention

Juliana Spicoluk:

until you listen and but I think, you know, a mindful

Juliana Spicoluk:

practice of self care is the first step in helping you kind

Juliana Spicoluk:

of reconnect to that connection, like that telephone wire with

Juliana Spicoluk:

your body and your mind, to try and connect to it and listen to

Juliana Spicoluk:

what it actually feels and what it needs. And that, I think, as

Juliana Spicoluk:

we prioritize it and we start to take care of our bodies, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

start to feel better in your mind. You prioritize that mind

Juliana Spicoluk:

body connection, and slowly, things just start to kind of

Juliana Spicoluk:

move in that direction. And one little baby step at a time,

Juliana Spicoluk:

it'll unfold the way it's supposed to. And then you feel

Juliana Spicoluk:

more stronger and more confident to even speak your truth, and,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, voice your truth. And that's something, you know, I

Juliana Spicoluk:

struggled a lot with, you know, for a long time, because I, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, I was raised, I come from Ukraine, right? So, like, I was

Juliana Spicoluk:

raised in a very like Soviet Union type of way, where, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, like, as though, as a girl too, like you don't speak, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

listen, you take, like rules, like everything is so one way,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and as a woman as well, in that culture, it's like, no, no, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

don't have a voice. You you do what you're told, kind of thing.

Juliana Spicoluk:

And so that's been programmed from a very, very early age in

Juliana Spicoluk:

my mind, and slowly, obviously, living the life that I have now.

Juliana Spicoluk:

It also was a lot of work to start to deprogram that, and I

Juliana Spicoluk:

still, you know, struggle through activating my throat

Juliana Spicoluk:

chakra to be able to voice certain things that I feel that

Juliana Spicoluk:

sometimes are scary or maybe a little bit more intimidating to

Juliana Spicoluk:

speak about it. It's a work in progress, but, you know, it just

Juliana Spicoluk:

shows that, like it's it requires work. None of it is

Juliana Spicoluk:

going to be a step of a fingers. Be like, Okay, now I'm ready.

Juliana Spicoluk:

I'm going to speak my truth. It's like, Well, are you? Are

Juliana Spicoluk:

you able to really connect to that truth? Are you able to, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, understand of what that will open up for you when you

Juliana Spicoluk:

are ready to commit to walking that path, that unscripted path,

Juliana Spicoluk:

as you say, right? Because that also will require you having to

Juliana Spicoluk:

realign your path with the right people, because there's so many

Juliana Spicoluk:

people in your life that may not agree with it, that may not

Juliana Spicoluk:

support it, that may actually try to scare you from it,

Juliana Spicoluk:

especially like I was saying, it's like, if you're surrounded

Juliana Spicoluk:

by other people that are living that life, that are maybe stuck

Juliana Spicoluk:

and not listening to themselves, when they see somebody else

Juliana Spicoluk:

trying to, you know, change or find a different path, Like

Juliana Spicoluk:

maybe, what are you doing? You know, because they themselves.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Everything is a reflection, right? It's a personal

Juliana Spicoluk:

reflection. They're reflecting what you're you're trying to do

Juliana Spicoluk:

with their own life, and then they will try to convince you to

Juliana Spicoluk:

not do it, because deep down in themselves, they're too scared

Juliana Spicoluk:

of themselves, you know. And I saw it a lot when Mark and I

Juliana Spicoluk:

started going on our path, you know, I but I lost a lot of

Juliana Spicoluk:

friends. I had to let go of a lot of people in my life because

Juliana Spicoluk:

I knew that their energy wasn't serving the truth that I was

Juliana Spicoluk:

ready to walk towards. And that's also part of it, right?

Juliana Spicoluk:

It's

Kate Harlow:

just like so part of it, I mean,

Juliana Spicoluk:

I'm sure you can relate as well. Probably had

Juliana Spicoluk:

to

Juliana Spicoluk:

yeah

Kate Harlow:

time, but I just there was this line, the full

Kate Harlow:

moon that just happened. There was this line, the Scorpio Full

Kate Harlow:

Moon on the on my birthday, on the 12th, the last line, it was

Kate Harlow:

so poignant. It said, You will never go back to the person that

Kate Harlow:

you were, and it will be the best thing that ever happened to

Kate Harlow:

you. And so our fear. Or wants to hold on to what was like we

Kate Harlow:

talked about with the death and rebirth our fear. Wants to hold

Kate Harlow:

on to all those people. Wants to hold on, wants to make everyone

Kate Harlow:

happy. We're so and as women, just so taught to please

Kate Harlow:

everyone else and not ruffle feathers, not cause, but like

Kate Harlow:

I'm so. I love how you phrase that. It's the reflection of

Kate Harlow:

them, and you know, once you can really, really anchor into other

Kate Harlow:

people's opinions of you, perspectives, their judgments,

Kate Harlow:

their their fears, aren't about you anyways, like they're not

Kate Harlow:

about you and and and on my path, I'm sure you can say the

Kate Harlow:

same. It's been like, the more I stand rooted in my own truth,

Kate Harlow:

the less people challenge me. They're just you now. They're

Kate Harlow:

using the ones who are still in my life like family, and the

Kate Harlow:

ones that they might not be living the same path as me, but

Kate Harlow:

they love me now for all of who I am and the crazy in their mind

Kate Harlow:

choices. Because they're just like, oh yeah, that's just Kate.

Kate Harlow:

Whereas when I first started following my truth, they were

Kate Harlow:

like, no, no. They would tell me what to do. They would give me

Kate Harlow:

advice, because that's how my patterns had it set up, right?

Kate Harlow:

Like, yeah, because they weren't used to that, and it was, of

Kate Harlow:

course, reflecting their own fear. But now, the ones that

Kate Harlow:

have stuck around, and many fell away that weren't aligned, but,

Kate Harlow:

but, but mostly, I'm talking about family that just like, Are

Kate Harlow:

there no matter what they're Yeah. They just see like, oh,

Kate Harlow:

that's they accept it now. Like, nobody was surprised that I

Kate Harlow:

didn't get vaccinated. Nobody's surprised that I went to Costa

Kate Harlow:

Rica in the middle of the pandemic, that I'm then when I

Kate Harlow:

moved to Greece. They're like, Oh, yeah, this game. Like, if I

Kate Harlow:

became a lesbian, like, nobody would be surprised. They're

Kate Harlow:

like, yeah, she's just doing her thing. Like, you know

Juliana Spicoluk:

what? Are true? Yeah,

Kate Harlow:

yeah. So it's like, the more we do it, the more the

Kate Harlow:

world around us. And I think really, it's comes down to the

Kate Harlow:

more we internally, like, are really so rooted in our truth

Kate Harlow:

that we're no longer willing to sacrifice our own truth for

Kate Harlow:

everyone else's experience,

Juliana Spicoluk:

exactly. And you'll kind of stop caring as

Juliana Spicoluk:

well. You're like you stop caring. Yes, you stop caring

Juliana Spicoluk:

what they think, because it doesn't really matter, because

Juliana Spicoluk:

this is your life, and their opinions of you isn't going to

Juliana Spicoluk:

really change. You know what you're going to continue onward

Juliana Spicoluk:

with and your path. So whether they agree with you or disagree

Juliana Spicoluk:

with you, it doesn't really matter, because if they don't

Juliana Spicoluk:

agree with you, then they're not meant to be in your life

Juliana Spicoluk:

anymore, and that's okay. And it's not like a a negative, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, terrible thing. It's just the way life goes. We're not

Juliana Spicoluk:

always going to be connected with the same people forever.

Juliana Spicoluk:

It's like every person serves a purpose, and sometimes that is a

Juliana Spicoluk:

chapter in your life. Maybe that's a lesson. Maybe it's it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

a beautiful relationship for a moment, and then you have to let

Juliana Spicoluk:

that relationship go. Because you're, you're, you're all

Juliana Spicoluk:

beings, your own soul, you're all, we're all traveling in our

Juliana Spicoluk:

own path, and that's okay, you know, and difficult as it is

Juliana Spicoluk:

sometimes to admit to that of losing your friends or, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, relationship and such, it's, it is just the way of

Juliana Spicoluk:

life, and it just, it's, it's our journey, and it's, it's the

Juliana Spicoluk:

lessons in itself, right?

Kate Harlow:

And it's so worth it when the aligned people come

Kate Harlow:

in, right? Like, where it's easy and it's, it's you're on the, I

Kate Harlow:

think of my favorite metaphor lately is the radio channels,

Kate Harlow:

like, you're on the same radio, and there's no static. It's

Kate Harlow:

just, like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

totally Yeah, friction, yes,

Kate Harlow:

and you don't, and then

Juliana Spicoluk:

you don't have to, like, hold yourself back. I

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, I found I became really aware of this lately.

Juliana Spicoluk:

It's like, when I've been in a in an environment or a group

Juliana Spicoluk:

setting, I guess, with different individuals and people that are

Juliana Spicoluk:

maybe not on that same radio frequency as me, I find myself

Juliana Spicoluk:

so, like, held back because I'm so afraid to, like, Oh, can I

Juliana Spicoluk:

say this? Or can I not say this? Maybe they don't, they'll think

Juliana Spicoluk:

I'm crazy if I say it this way, and it's like, it's so draining

Juliana Spicoluk:

to a point where, like, now I'm like, I avoid people like that.

Juliana Spicoluk:

I don't even want to be surrounded because my time and

Juliana Spicoluk:

my life is so limited right now. I have so much going on that if

Juliana Spicoluk:

I'm going to commit to a social gathering or social event, I

Juliana Spicoluk:

wanted to be around people where I can be myself, and I can open

Juliana Spicoluk:

and I can feel comfortable in a very loving, held space where

Juliana Spicoluk:

everyone's aligned on the same rape frequency, you know. And so

Juliana Spicoluk:

I choose to find those people and to surround myself with

Juliana Spicoluk:

those people, because that's what it is. And then I'm so

Juliana Spicoluk:

grateful for that, you know. And I'm saying even here, like in

Juliana Spicoluk:

Barbados, I'm so grateful that we started to find the little

Juliana Spicoluk:

families and individuals that are very like minded and

Juliana Spicoluk:

connected in that same frequency. Because, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's, it's a beautiful thing to find your tribe, and it

Juliana Spicoluk:

sometimes takes a whole life to find that, right, so

Kate Harlow:

totally and it, yeah, it's like, it's going to

Kate Harlow:

be your future self will thank you. This is going to feel way

Kate Harlow:

better than what what you currently have those friendships

Kate Harlow:

where you have to hold yourself back or fight or or leave

Kate Harlow:

something drained and exhausted or defeated, or whatever the

Kate Harlow:

thing might be like that. Your your future aligned friendships

Kate Harlow:

are going to feel so much better than that. So it's going to be

Kate Harlow:

so worth it. And. Yeah, I was just, oh my gosh, have you met

Kate Harlow:

Scott? Yeah, the chiropractor. Scott, chiropractor, we'll talk

Kate Harlow:

about it later. My old, old, like, very old dear friend. I

Kate Harlow:

haven't talked to him in years, moved to Barbados, and he's

Kate Harlow:

still there, and he's a chiropractor,

Juliana Spicoluk:

so we'll talk about it. Yeah, I'd love to meet

Juliana Spicoluk:

him chiropractor, too. It's always nice to find a good

Kate Harlow:

chiropractor. Yes, He's amazing. He's been doing it

Kate Harlow:

forever, and he's a phenomenal guy. So yeah, have to connect

Kate Harlow:

you too. But yeah, it's it's it. I love all of this. It's like

Kate Harlow:

the body most important thing. You gotta really shift the

Kate Harlow:

relationship with the body and have a reverent, loving,

Kate Harlow:

harmonious relationship with your body, because she's going

Kate Harlow:

to lead you to your truth, and then from the truth it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

and then life will unfold and in the way it

Juliana Spicoluk:

should be. And then, you know, and that that's that next

Juliana Spicoluk:

component, is that trust right through all of this, and also

Juliana Spicoluk:

holding that trust in whatever you label it, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

divinity, God, universe, whatever it is to that to you,

Juliana Spicoluk:

but having trust that you are guided in that way, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and I and every time I remember, I felt lost in my life, you know

Juliana Spicoluk:

what I mean? Or like these periods of my life where I feel

Juliana Spicoluk:

kind of disconnected, or just, yeah, in a tougher place,

Juliana Spicoluk:

there's always like, these, um, sorry, these beautiful mantras

Juliana Spicoluk:

that I come back to, and one of them, it always is just closing

Juliana Spicoluk:

your eyes and connecting to that you're like, I'm guided. I am

Juliana Spicoluk:

protected. I am guided. And just repeating that in your mind. Or,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, there's, there's many variations, and I have a few

Juliana Spicoluk:

meditations on our app that deal with those type of energies and

Juliana Spicoluk:

intentions. But yeah, it's reminding yourself that even in

Juliana Spicoluk:

those like really difficult moments, that you are guided,

Juliana Spicoluk:

even if you don't see it, there is there is an energy that

Juliana Spicoluk:

pushes us and protects us in this life and gives us the the

Juliana Spicoluk:

difficult challenges, but also beautiful, expansive

Juliana Spicoluk:

opportunities for the growth of our of our life, for our soul to

Juliana Spicoluk:

to live, and we're here to live, right? That's why we aren't

Juliana Spicoluk:

incarnated in these bodies, so we can have these experiences

Kate Harlow:

Exactly. And what else is the point? Like, we're

Kate Harlow:

not here to just, I mean, you can choose a mundane life, you

Kate Harlow:

can choose a numb life. You can choose a scripted not your

Kate Harlow:

desire, not your not aligned. But it's so much more painful.

Kate Harlow:

And people are so afraid of the fear of taking the risk to

Kate Harlow:

follow their hearts. But it's like the only part that's

Kate Harlow:

painful is really make like you said. It's making the decision,

Kate Harlow:

like, once you once you make the decision, it's so beautiful.

Juliana Spicoluk:

And you know, what else is more painful is

Juliana Spicoluk:

regret, is one day waking up and feeling like, I should have done

Juliana Spicoluk:

this, I should have made that step, I should have tried or

Juliana Spicoluk:

just took that risk. And, you know, one day it could be too

Juliana Spicoluk:

late, you know, maybe one day you're too old, or, God forbid,

Juliana Spicoluk:

something else happens, you know, with your body, sickness

Juliana Spicoluk:

and illness, and that is the biggest fear, I think, is to

Juliana Spicoluk:

regret that you didn't try. And so while you can, and while you

Juliana Spicoluk:

have the opportunity and the health and and the, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

possibility, to do it, why not? Because, like I said, there

Juliana Spicoluk:

really there's nothing to lose. You can always go back to the

Juliana Spicoluk:

scripted way of living. It's easy, you know, can find it. You

Juliana Spicoluk:

can, you know, do the same thing, but one day, it could

Juliana Spicoluk:

become too late for you to explore what life could be if

Juliana Spicoluk:

you follow your heart and you connect to your heart and allow

Juliana Spicoluk:

that truth to guide you forward, and because when you make that

Juliana Spicoluk:

first step, then you really don't know what people and what

Juliana Spicoluk:

opportunities will open themselves up to you and unfold

Juliana Spicoluk:

in front of your eyes that will then make you look back and

Juliana Spicoluk:

connect all the dots and be like, Wow, this is crazy. I'm so

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, lucky and happy that I listened to my my own, my own

Juliana Spicoluk:

truth, you know, and I listened to my heart and I and I faced

Juliana Spicoluk:

that fear, because look at the life that has presented itself,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, like, look at yourself like you're moving to Kenya.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Like, have you ever wondered, like, be living Kenya? Like, do

Juliana Spicoluk:

you remember yourself like two years ago, last time I spoke to

Juliana Spicoluk:

you definitely that was never in the conversation. But, like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

look at what you know you you had this beautiful relationship,

Juliana Spicoluk:

and you know, it's done its chapter and its thing, but it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

like all the little steps have brought you to where you are

Juliana Spicoluk:

now, creating these beautiful relationships and opportunities

Juliana Spicoluk:

for yourself to make a life in Africa, like, amazing. It's

Juliana Spicoluk:

incredible, you know, and you're coming soon.

Kate Harlow:

I can't wait to visit you. It's, um, I love what

Kate Harlow:

you said about connecting the dots, because it's like, that's

Kate Harlow:

the cool thing about when you look back to the unscripted

Kate Harlow:

life, is this is like, oh, had I not. Like, had my friend Mariana

Kate Harlow:

not gone to that party and met that guy that was like, Oh, you

Kate Harlow:

do retreats. Like, you gotta go to retreat in London, and you

Kate Harlow:

gotta go to do a retreat at this place called Ola pangi farm in

Kate Harlow:

Kenya. And like, she wasn't on her radar. And then she's like,

Kate Harlow:

we're going to Kenya. And then, like, you know, I just think of

Kate Harlow:

all the divine moments and divine connections, not just for

Kate Harlow:

me, not just for her, for all the women I've brought to Kenya

Kate Harlow:

and then their magical journeys and lives and connections and

Kate Harlow:

love stories and things that have unfolded from that place,

Kate Harlow:

like when we follow our hearts and our truths that like that,

Kate Harlow:

you get to go back and connect the dots and see like it's

Kate Harlow:

amazing this person, if I didn't take that risk, if I didn't get

Kate Harlow:

on that plane, if I didn't have that uncomfortable conversation.

Kate Harlow:

I didn't let that thing go,

Juliana Spicoluk:

yeah, yeah. It's incredible. And then again,

Juliana Spicoluk:

that reminds you of that whole idea. It's like we are guided.

Juliana Spicoluk:

In a way, there is no guidance. Energy that is guiding us is

Juliana Spicoluk:

just, you know, we do also have free will. So in a sense, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, you do have the choice to go to that party or not. You do

Juliana Spicoluk:

have a choice to get on the plane or not. It's really up to

Juliana Spicoluk:

you. But if you, you know, look a little deeper under that, it's

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, wow. The all of the things at the right place happen, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, you met that right person, because you're meant to be going

Juliana Spicoluk:

here, something in your soul is guiding you from this journey to

Juliana Spicoluk:

experience whatever is out there for you, and you and you have no

Juliana Spicoluk:

idea what's out there for you. It could be incredible, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know, or it could be short lived. You have no idea, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

know,

Kate Harlow:

and not attached, trusting that too, trusting that

Kate Harlow:

it could be a stepping stone, or that it could be exactly a

Kate Harlow:

longer place, or it's all, yeah, none of us know the rest is

Kate Harlow:

unwritten. I love that, that song, the rest is still

Kate Harlow:

unwritten. Yeah, we don't know what's coming, but yeah, our the

Kate Harlow:

more we follow our hearts and our truths, the more aligned we

Kate Harlow:

become, and the more we get to live this life that feels really

Kate Harlow:

good. So I oh my gosh, this conversation is the best. I feel

Kate Harlow:

like we could jam out on this all day long. I just love you so

Kate Harlow:

much, and I'm so happy to share your energy. It's nice to just

Kate Harlow:

connect me. I loved having my country that was super fun in a

Kate Harlow:

different way, but this feels

Juliana Spicoluk:

so good. Me too, has been so lovely, and I'm

Juliana Spicoluk:

so excited to see you in July. Wonderful to spend more time

Juliana Spicoluk:

together and hang out and, yeah, and plan our our trip to Kenya.

Juliana Spicoluk:

I'm excited for this.

Kate Harlow:

Yeah, we'll map it out in July. It's, yeah, I'll

Kate Harlow:

get mark on board. I'm sure he'll be on board. It'll be no

Kate Harlow:

problem. Yeah, 100% Yeah, 100%

Juliana Spicoluk:

we're excited. So excited. It's definitely like

Juliana Spicoluk:

I said it and again, like what I was saying earlier. It's like,

Juliana Spicoluk:

it's been in my mind, it's been in there. And I just somehow,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, the right things didn't align, and all of a

Juliana Spicoluk:

sudden, you know, we reconnect, and then use something. You're

Juliana Spicoluk:

living there now, and you're like, what? Like, I literally,

Juliana Spicoluk:

I've been thinking about going to this part of the world for so

Juliana Spicoluk:

long, but, you know, I wasn't, it wasn't the time, and this is

Juliana Spicoluk:

it now, yeah, now. And everything in your life happened

Juliana Spicoluk:

to then connect, to give me that, also reassurance that it

Juliana Spicoluk:

is a good place to bring my family to as well. You know, all

Juliana Spicoluk:

of it, it's it's beautiful, so so divine. It's beautiful.

Kate Harlow:

It's so magical. So hopefully y'all are hearing the

Kate Harlow:

message so much more is possible for you. And okay, so we talked

Kate Harlow:

a lot about your app. Is there anything else you want to talk

Kate Harlow:

about? But also you can share more about the app if you want.

Kate Harlow:

What is the app? We'll link everything in the show notes,

Kate Harlow:

but just so you can say it out loud. Is it just boho beautiful?

Juliana Spicoluk:

Of course, yeah. It's called boho

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful, official, and we it's an iOS, Android app. It's also,

Juliana Spicoluk:

we have it on Roku, Apple TV. We have it on fire TV, I think, and

Juliana Spicoluk:

also desktop, and it's a beautiful hub of everything that

Juliana Spicoluk:

you need to enrich your life, enrich your physical and

Juliana Spicoluk:

spiritual component of your well being. So we have everything

Juliana Spicoluk:

from like I mentioned earlier, we have hundreds and hundreds of

Juliana Spicoluk:

yoga classes with myself, with Mark. There's also new teachers

Juliana Spicoluk:

we're bringing on. There's meditation classes, there's

Juliana Spicoluk:

breath work. There are even, you know, inspirational

Juliana Spicoluk:

conversations. There's some episodes from our podcast that

Juliana Spicoluk:

we've done before. It's everything. And you know, you

Juliana Spicoluk:

could put it on your phone, or you could plug it into your TV,

Juliana Spicoluk:

but it's a beautiful opportunity to to have a tool, and that's

Juliana Spicoluk:

what it is, giving you a tool to use to bring a little bit more

Juliana Spicoluk:

self care into your life. So, yeah, you can link it. Of

Juliana Spicoluk:

course, I'm sure it'll be somewhere people can click. But

Juliana Spicoluk:

we also have free offerings as well. We have our YouTube

Juliana Spicoluk:

channel bubble beautiful, where people can just, you know, try

Juliana Spicoluk:

out or join in on some free content. We have, again,

Juliana Spicoluk:

hundreds and hundreds of yoga classes, pilates, fitness,

Juliana Spicoluk:

meditation, everything. So happy to have people explore it and

Juliana Spicoluk:

see what connects to what they need in their life right now.

Kate Harlow:

That's perfect. I feel like last time I talked to

Kate Harlow:

you, I told you, or maybe it. This was in a voice note in

Kate Harlow:

Greece, and I live, well, obviously, you know, in Athens,

Kate Harlow:

for those of you that don't know, I was in my bedroom one

Kate Harlow:

day and I was getting ready, and I heard your voice, and I was

Kate Harlow:

like, Oh, my God, that's Juliana. The person in the

Kate Harlow:

apartment across from me was so funny classes. I don't know if

Kate Harlow:

it was an Airbnb or the girl that there's someone lives

Kate Harlow:

there, but I couldn't see who it was, but it was so ah,

Juliana Spicoluk:

that's so sweet. No, it's so incredible

Juliana Spicoluk:

that this digital world, as you were saying, like in the

Juliana Spicoluk:

beginning of our conversation, it's the fact that, you know, we

Juliana Spicoluk:

can create these videos and then put them up and then people all

Juliana Spicoluk:

over the world and be plugging in any time of the day and and

Juliana Spicoluk:

using it and taking something from it and better themselves.

Juliana Spicoluk:

It is honestly the greatest purpose and service I could have

Juliana Spicoluk:

ever asked for in this life. And I'm very, very, very, very proud

Juliana Spicoluk:

of it and grateful for it.

Kate Harlow:

That's amazing. It's so special. And obviously,

Kate Harlow:

I imagine you can feel the heart frequency of Juliana through

Kate Harlow:

this conversation. If you aren't following the app or getting I'm

Kate Harlow:

getting the app. I'm like, oh god, that's what I need. When

Kate Harlow:

I'm in Kenya, I never I have a yoga mat.

Juliana Spicoluk:

You had one? No,

Kate Harlow:

I you know, we talked about it last time, I

Kate Harlow:

don't know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

didn't give you access. Okay, well,

Juliana Spicoluk:

messaging, I think

Kate Harlow:

you maybe sent it to me and I forgot to download

Kate Harlow:

it or whatever. We'll figure it out, but I'm going to get one

Kate Harlow:

for sure. And actually, I didn't even tell you. I taught yoga in

Kate Harlow:

I just channel taught yoga in Kenya. Where's the farm? Because

Kate Harlow:

one of the girls there wanted to learn how to teach. Okay, now

Kate Harlow:

I'm a yoga teacher. She's now leading classes like she says

Kate Harlow:

she's not an official yoga teacher. Being her, did them

Kate Harlow:

together, and I led them, and we were gonna do a video on

Kate Harlow:

YouTube, but the Wi Fi didn't work. And I was like, Well,

Kate Harlow:

okay, I've done yoga for 20 years, so I could probably teach

Kate Harlow:

a class. And I just dropped in and, like, did a class also,

Kate Harlow:

wow, I channeled you. Yeah, it was super fun. But yes, like

Kate Harlow:

everything below. And thank you so much for your love

Kate Harlow:

conversation. And I feel like it's going to, yeah, I feel like

Kate Harlow:

it's going to penetrate a lot of hearts and

Juliana Spicoluk:

release a lot. So yeah, I hope so. I think this

Juliana Spicoluk:

is, this is the time in our in our world right now, is to

Juliana Spicoluk:

inspire one another and to give strength to one another, and,

Juliana Spicoluk:

you know, to show that it's possible and that this life is

Juliana Spicoluk:

worth living in the most joyful and peaceful and happiest way

Juliana Spicoluk:

that we're meant to experience it. So, you know, hold each

Juliana Spicoluk:

other strong and can do this. And I know, and I think

Juliana Spicoluk:

remembering that, I think, for anyone listening right now is

Juliana Spicoluk:

remembering that the support is there, the guidance is there,

Juliana Spicoluk:

that there's so many women and men have done this, and that

Juliana Spicoluk:

you're not alone, you know, and that's something to always

Juliana Spicoluk:

remember. You're never alone, and you can reach out to

Juliana Spicoluk:

somebody in your community or just through online communities,

Juliana Spicoluk:

but there's so many ways to feel inspired and supported in

Juliana Spicoluk:

creating change in your life. So really, only the thing that's

Juliana Spicoluk:

stopping you is is the first step in the world to really want

Juliana Spicoluk:

to change. So once that's there, that's the first step in a

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful journey ahead. So

Kate Harlow:

yeah, love it. Yeah. Maybe, maybe inside of the

Kate Harlow:

new truth movement Facebook group, just inspiring any of you

Kate Harlow:

who are in there to just start, like, commit to 30 days with

Kate Harlow:

Juliana on Bucha, beautiful, and whoever, and like, doing

Kate Harlow:

something every day. Oh yeah, days that'll be able to have

Juliana Spicoluk:

it. We actually have every January. We

Juliana Spicoluk:

would release 30 days, 31 days. And so now we have that saved.

Juliana Spicoluk:

So it doesn't have to be January, but anybody that wants,

Juliana Spicoluk:

like a challenge or something, we have them on the app. You

Juliana Spicoluk:

just log in and you see it, and it'll give you exact, you know,

Juliana Spicoluk:

practice. And the last time we did it, there was a different

Juliana Spicoluk:

intention for every single day to help you, not just like

Juliana Spicoluk:

physically, but also spiritually, to to embody a

Juliana Spicoluk:

different component of a spiritual practice into your

Juliana Spicoluk:

life. And so that's always a great way, like challenges like

Juliana Spicoluk:

that, that hold you accountable, not just having to kind of

Juliana Spicoluk:

everyday, scroll and look for something, but to be like, okay,

Juliana Spicoluk:

day two, day three, day four. And then you feel like motivated

Juliana Spicoluk:

to to complete, you know, 31 days. And it's crazy to see when

Juliana Spicoluk:

you actually do yoga for 31 days straight, how you start to

Juliana Spicoluk:

change the habitual, you know, chemistry in your brain, like

Juliana Spicoluk:

the basal ganglia, and things like, you start to crave it

Juliana Spicoluk:

after you like, oh, I one day without yoga or movement, you're

Juliana Spicoluk:

like, something feels off, like you're starting to create a

Juliana Spicoluk:

beautiful new habits in

Kate Harlow:

your life totally. And it feels like yoga feels

Kate Harlow:

like it's a shower on the inside when you're by the time you get

Kate Harlow:

to the end, good, yeah, that's what it feels like, where it's

Kate Harlow:

like you're not only like reworking your energy and your

Kate Harlow:

physical body, but the inside, there's this internal shift that

Kate Harlow:

happens. I had goosebumps when you said that, imagining what it

Kate Harlow:

would feel like after that much, and even devoting yourself in

Kate Harlow:

that way and proving to yourself that you can ever. Everyone can,

Kate Harlow:

we might, but you can, yeah,

Juliana Spicoluk:

yeah, you can find that 20 minutes, 30 minutes

Juliana Spicoluk:

a day, yeah, to dedicate

Kate Harlow:

to yourself. It's possible, yeah, take 30 minutes

Kate Harlow:

off of scrolling on Instagram or Tiktok or whatever other things

Kate Harlow:

you distract yourself with, and there you go. You probably have

Kate Harlow:

hours on your hands.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Very true, very true. Yeah? Love

Kate Harlow:

it. All right. Well, thank you so much

Kate Harlow:

beautiful. And as always, yeah, so fun. And as always, share

Kate Harlow:

this episode with every woman you know who needs to meet

Kate Harlow:

Juliana conversation and every woman who wants to burn the

Kate Harlow:

script and and live a life from the heart and soul.

Juliana Spicoluk:

Love it. Thank you for having me here. The

Kate Harlow:

best so fun. Thank.

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